Burnley and Sheffield United

Two of the promoted sides, Sheffield United and Luton, made no real attempt to buy quality players for the Premier campaign and seemed content to take the money and go back down. Burnley spent £90 million and are much the most likely to stay up.
 
I think we wont go up this season , but I reckon we might just put the squad together for next, a learning curve and experience for a few of the younger players and some coming into their prime. Depends who we buy too, and if we can keep the management.
 
Alan_Breck said:
Both teams streets ahead of us last season, and rightly promoted to the Premier League, but look how their fortunes have changed. A third of the way through the season and they have 4 and 5 points respectively, and on this form relegation is more than likely. We would have little money to spend on players and would have done no better to be fair, so why the great chase for PL status and certain disappointment. A treat, and heartbreak, watching the great and the good come to the Riverside and take points home with them, so is challenging in the upper echelons of the Championship our destiny, and never progress?

#UTB
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Sheff utd were not streets ahead of us last season
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
I'd like us to refuse promotion if we should get it. Just say we'll take the money but we'll give our premier League place to someone else.
Championship is a great League. No VAR and Im not loyalty carded out of existence and can actually watch us play. Plus we sometimes win.
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I’m sure the PL would be fine with that.
 
Sheffield Utd weren't, we took 4 points of them.
The day when my club accepts second best and doesn't strive to be amongst the 'elite' is the day I stop going.
We've flirted with the Premier League, we can and will do it again. UTB
Alan_Breck said:
Both teams streets ahead of us last season, and rightly promoted to the Premier League, but look how their fortunes have changed. A third of the way through the season and they have 4 and 5 points respectively, and on this form relegation is more than likely. We would have little money to spend on players and would have done no better to be fair, so why the great chase for PL status and certain disappointment. A treat, and heartbreak, watching the great and the good come to the Riverside and take points home with them, so is challenging in the upper echelons of the Championship our destiny, and never progress?

#UTB
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There was a point a few weeks ago (before Everton's 10 point deduction) that the three sides who were promoted were bottom three, and the three sides promoted the previous season made up the rest of the bottom six. Usually however, at least one of the promoted sides has a really good start to the season a la Ipswich in the Champo this season and sometimes manage even a top half finish.
 
Davey_C said:
You wonder where we would be without the Tav/Spence and Chuba money

Tav and Spence must have funded a big part of our loans last season
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Interesting statement - my guess is that we paid around £20k/week for each loanee - say £600k per loanee thats around £3.6m. Spence and Tav revenue was £22.5m minimum - Ok in instalments.
 
I still think that Burnley will do something like a Notts Forest did last season. They were rock-bottom after buying 2 whole new squads but turned it around when they had a string of winnable games. That said, Burnley are doing significantly worse than even Forest were.
After 13 games, Burnley are bottom with won 1, drawn 1, lost 11. Forest were bottom with won 2, draw 3, lost 8. Bottom of the Premier league does look weaker than normal this year.

Last year, if I remember, it was around about now that rumours of Cooper being sacked were circulating. Instead I think they signed him up to a new contract and he turned it around. Four of Burnley's next 5 games are Sheffield Utd, Wolves, Everton and Fulham. If they don't win 2 of them, I don't see Kompany lasting the year. However, I can see them getting 10 points from the next 5 games and suddenly looking much more comfortable.
 
We need to get promoted perennial top six is not sustainable.. look at Derby!

Sheff Utd went up with the handcuffs on.. sold their best player and did not invest to the extent they needed to.

Burnley invested.. pretty much across the board.. but did they add enough prem quality? they look set up for the future and to smash the championship next season.

Luton Town kept it simple ala Sean Dyche in the Burnley years.. good manager with a robust squad.

We have invested pretty much across the board.. we're doing our Burnley season this season. If we go up we'll ad some premier league quality additions.
 
If we weren't chasing promotion we wouldn't be spending the money we are and those wins in the championship would become defeats and we'd be hoping to not get relegated to league 1.
You have to chase promotion and if ytou get it - you have some spare money to have another go at promotion if you get relegated.
 
Bruce said:
I still think that Burnley will do something like a Notts Forest did last season. They were rock-bottom after buying 2 whole new squads but turned it around when they had a string of winnable games. That said, Burnley are doing significantly worse than even Forest were.
After 13 games, Burnley are bottom with won 1, drawn 1, lost 11. Forest were bottom with won 2, draw 3, lost 8. Bottom of the Premier league does look weaker than normal this year.

Last year, if I remember, it was around about now that rumours of Cooper being sacked were circulating. Instead I think they signed him up to a new contract and he turned it around. Four of Burnley's next 5 games are Sheffield Utd, Wolves, Everton and Fulham. If they don't win 2 of them, I don't see Kompany lasting the year. However, I can see them getting 10 points from the next 5 games and suddenly looking much more comfortable.
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Burnley spent £90m and significantly not a single signing was playing in the Prem the previous season (Sander Berg obvs has prem experience) They also transferred out a shed load of players.
 
Block 86 said:
Sheffield Utd weren't, we took 4 points of them.
The day when my club accepts second best and doesn't strive to be amongst the 'elite' is the day I stop going.
We've flirted with the Premier League, we can and will do it again. UTB
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Block,
Fair enough we did play well against Sheffield Utd in our two games, but overall they finished with 16 points more than us at the end of the season. I also agree that having no ambition by the club would be a real turn off for our support, but if we were to be a yo-yo club, like Norwich, I would take that.

#UTB
 
Boro4life said:
We need Premier league money even if just for a season to allow us to challenge more regularly at the top of the championship though
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In fairness, we do compete in the top half of the Championship most seasons though I'd say. Admittedly we are very rarely anywhere near the top 2.

As much as the last PL experience was awful, I do look at Luton and think 'maybe we could have a bash', plus if the FFP breaches are all acted upon the PL will have quite a few automatic relegations next season and won't be any stronger than the Championship.

On a separate note, I went for a 10 mile walk on Friday and listened to a plethora of podcasts going into detail about Everton's charges, and how they compare to City's wrongdoings. If Man City get away without a crippling points deduction then football is simply corrupt.
 
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