Boro move to Digital Ticketing 🎟️

[asredastheycome]

50? Assuming he is in his late fifties or early 60s then, I genuinely struggle to understand how someone of that age group can function well without any of those things. Not doubting your post in any way but I feel like he is missing out a bit. What does he do for work?

I suppose you could be talking about someone who didn't support Boro til later in life though.

Read the post he has supported Boro for 50 years. If he didnt support Boro until later in life he would be close to a hundred now. He was a plater not something you need a smartphone for. I genuinely struggle to think an intelligent guy can think others could not function without any of those things. Years ago we used to go to pubs on a night out and away matches etc and people would go missing but we would inevitably agree to a meeting point in case that happened. Very rarely anyone got lost or left behind but today people are lost today through over reliance on their phones. And I myself have been guilty of that.

 

[atypical_boro]

Does anyone else on here have a page on Wikipedia? My name appears on a page but that's it.

No, the wife does though. Sometimes I think about editing it to say who she is married to.

 

[atypical_boro]

Read the post he has supported Boro for 50 years. If he didnt support Boro until later in life he would be close to a hundred now. He was a plater not something you need a smartphone for. I genuinely struggle to think an intelligent guy can think others could not function without any of those things. Years ago we used to go to pubs on a night out and away matches etc and people would go missing but we would inevitably agree to a meeting point in case that happened. Very rarely anyone got lost or left behind but today people are lost today through over reliance on their phones. And I myself have been guilty of that.

OK, well you haven't given a lot of context. If he's close to a hundred then it is more understandable why he has never used the internet.

If he's as I'd expect, based on your 50 year fact, under 60, then its hard to see how a plater might find work without the internet. I suppose he may have worked for the same company the whole time, but he's still missing out on Netflix/Amazon Prime and what not, and in a lot of ways making things a lot harder for himself, assuming he has to visit a bank every time he wants to transfer some money. All I'm saying is its hard to see how someone of that age could function very well without the internet. I never claimed to be intelligent btw .

Yes we're 'over-reliant' on our phones, but people used to say it about TV, and radio, and telephones before that. I wouldn't necessarily say we're 'over-reliant' on the internet though, its almost as essential as electricity, gas and running water nowadays. In fact, I'll be getting shot of gas before the internet.

 

[Capybara]

but he's still missing out on Netflix/Amazon Prime and what not,

Crikey.

 

[Bob Fischer]

I don't think he's missing much...

 

[atypical_boro]

Crikey.

You mock, but it is pretty much the UK's premium TV service now.

I could of course mention Spotify and other services that many of you will turn your nose up at, but you have to accept that the world is moving on from what you are used to.

To be clear, I am not suggesting people should need a smartphone to access the Riverside Stadium however.

 

[Capybara]

You may mock, but it is pretty much the UK's premium TV service now.

I'm not mocking. It's just an odd choice of things he's 'missing out' on.

 

[clay]

The York and Bradford games are both mobile tickets only, and yet they have none of these problems. By using QR codes and not NFC tech, it means people can use their phone, or print it out, or even get the ticket office to print it out for them if they are really living in the dark ages. Works for everyone.

This really isn't about "luddites and refuseniks"; it's about the club choosing a restrictive tech solution over a flexible one. I presume they're doing that because they want to crack down on ticket sharing. That's why I asked if the discussions with the supporters forum were minuted, because I'd be interested to know if they've said that out loud.

 

[atypical_boro]

I'm not mocking. It's just an odd choice of things he's 'missing out' on.

OK then, pornhub.

 

[atypical_boro]

I presume they're doing that because they want to crack down on ticket sharing.

I'm not actually sure it is that. At City, you can send a screengrab of your season ticket QR code to a mate and they can gain access to the ground. We MAY be investing in a different technology, but I doubt it.

 

[asredastheycome]

OK, well you haven't given a lot of context. If he's close to a hundred then it is more understandable why he has never used the internet.

If he's as I'd expect, based on your 50 year fact, under 60, then its hard to see how a plater might find work without the internet. I suppose he may have worked for the same company the whole time, but he's still missing out on Netflix/Amazon Prime and what not, and in a lot of ways making things a lot harder for himself, assuming he has to visit a bank every time he wants to transfer some money. All I'm saying is its hard to see how someone of that age could function very well without the internet. I never claimed to be intelligent btw .

Yes we're 'over-reliant' on our phones, but people used to say it about TV, and radio, and telephones before that. I wouldn't necessarily say we're 'over-reliant' on the internet though, its almost as essential as electricity, gas and running water nowadays. In fact, I'll be getting shot of gas before the internet.

The bank is a problem for him but that's because the bank he uses closed the branch in Redcar so now and then he has to go to the Boro to sort out banking problems. And yes we have told him to change banks. Banks closing branches is just another way to force people online to make a few people redundant. and increase profits further.

 

[Juninhoburger]

The York and Bradford games are both mobile tickets only, and yet they have none of these problems. By using QR codes and not NFC tech, it means people can use their phone, or print it out, or even get the ticket office to print it out for them if they are really living in the dark ages. Works for everyone.

This really isn't about "luddites and refuseniks"; it's about the club choosing a restrictive tech solution over a flexible one. I presume they're doing that because they want to crack down on ticket sharing. That's why I asked if the discussions with the supporters forum were minuted, because I'd be interested to know if they've said that out loud.

Ticket sharing should be clamped down on.

Or are you happy for the club to lose revenue?

 

[atypical_boro]

Ticket sharing should be clamped down on.

Or are you happy for the club to lose revenue?

The club will lose more revenue if season tickets are strictly restricted to the sole use of one person. We have a high proportion of season ticket holders who don't live in Teesside and cannot make it back for every game.

 

[Boro4life]

The club will lose more revenue if tickets are strictly restricted to the sole use of one person. We have a high proportion of season ticket holders who don't live in Teesside and cannot make it back for every game.

If ticket sharing is available with these digital season tickets surly going digital makes it easier as you don't have to pick up the physical card. You can just send it to someone

 

[atypical_boro]

If ticket sharing is available with these digital season tickets surly going digital makes it easier as you don't have to pick up the physical card. You can just send it to someone

Exactly! Hence why, as someone who has to miss a fair amount of home games due to having a young family and not living in the area, I am an advocate of being able to share my ticket more easily (though not at the expense of the small number of folk who don't have smartphones).

 

[asredastheycome]

Here is a genuine question but apologies if its being answered elsewhere. My mate has just got a new season ticket near us in the East Stand. so assuming what the Boro and Rob are saying he will need the new system in place for the start of the season. At the moment the devices at the turnstiles read barcodes and QR codes will they also read the NFC tech. If not will the new scanners be installed at every turnstile in readiness or will new season ticket holders have to go to a specific turnstile until they are all fully installed.

Asking for a friend

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

You mock, but it is pretty much the UK's premium TV service now.

I could of course mention Spotify and other services that many of you will turn your nose up at, but you have to accept that the world is moving on from what you are used to.

To be clear, I am not suggesting people should need a smartphone to access the Riverside Stadium however.

Says a lot about the direction the UK is moving.

You can fool some of the people all of the time, as the saying goes.

 

[clay]

Ticket sharing should be clamped down on.

Or are you happy for the club to lose revenue?

It's a spectrum. A dad who has a ticket with his son and can't go because he's working so his wife goes instead is ticket sharing. So is selling a high demand ticket for above face value.

This is *exactly* the sort of thing the supporters forum should be having open discussions about.

 

[atypical_boro]

Says a lot about the direction the UK is moving.

You can fool some of the people all of the time, as the saying goes.

Its not just the UK though is it? The world is embracing technology and the internet. Rightly or wrongly, to reject it completely and voluntarily is going to have consequences for you long term, some things are just out of your hands.

 

[Redwurzel]

I know someone who has worked for MI5 in the past. The state already know everything there is to know about you whether you like it or not (unless you don't use the internet whatsoever). Its irrelevant whether or not you use a smartphone on this front.

I agree people don't have privacy, but smartphones do take it a step further, because people tend to use the internet more when they get one and they are physically tracked in their movements. Its commercial organisations doing this to profile people more as well as Government. People seem to split about lack of privacy, some seem quite happy with everything being tracked (like in the book 1984) "what I have to be worried about? etc" while others prefer not to. There are groups that will say I don't like it but I have no choice/can't do anything about it. As Fisher says some people just want to switch off for periods, but psychogically there is increasing pressure to be connected all the time.

For what I gather not all smartphones have the right technology for the digital ticketing offered at MFC, but MFC will make sure no one is excluded from attending football matches due to technology issues.