Boro fan recorded making racist gesture at Leicester

[TeessideCleveland]

I don’t need to.

and the doubt would be if she didn’t make a racist gesture.

Well I think you're in a very small minority if you really don't think it was

 

[r00fie1]

It's commendable and significant that the club have responded publicly so quickly to the allegations.
It's a step forward and hopefully welcomed by all.

 

[TeessideCleveland]

Anyway gesturing at people in a football ground is a stupid thing to do - don’t do it !

Especially in front of kids

 

[Jedi boro]

I don’t need to.

and the doubt would be if she didn’t make a racist gesture.

So you at no time have condemned racism in fact your view is to look for a justification.

As I say not the hill I’d chose to die on

But that’s just me.

 

[newyddion]

Yes, that is something that gets discussed. As I explained if we were "the judge, the jury or the executioner" I would not expect to be part of a discussion.

Transfer speculation does not effect people’s lives.

If you join a discussion you should expect that someone may/will take the opposite view to you.

Yup.. but have a look! Well.. if you don’t agree with us.. then YOU must be guilty too!

No one is stopping you stating your opinion which you have done at length.

I shouldn’t have to.. but yes. I have defended my very reasonable position once again.

I have pointed out where I disagree with your position and where you were factually inaccurate

You disagreed about roofie saying he would like someone to say something racist to his face.. and there was no insinuated consequence there.

That is part of a discussion. If you expected everyone to simply nod at your sage declamation you erred.

I did not expect that at all.

 

[newyddion]

So you at no time have condemned racism in fact your view is to look for a justification.

As I say not the hill I’d chose to die on

But that’s just me.

Yes I have.. many times. I have never looked to justify racism at all.

You want to die on that hill Jedi?

 

[newyddion]

Well I think you're in a very small minority if you really don't think it was

as I’ve said.. I hope it isn’t.

and I’ll wait for the outcome of the investigation.

 

[Jedi boro]

Yes I have.. many times. I have never looked to justify racism at all.

You want to die on that hill Jedi?

I never said you did I said you’ve yet to condemn it if she was guilty.

But hey crack on let’s see if your version happens ( btw it won’t)

But if you can laugh off sunlun vile chants as banter then you have different moral compass to me anyway.

I’ll leave it there

 

[newyddion]

I never said you did I said you’ve yet to condemn it if she was guilty.

But hey crack on let’s see if your version happens ( btw it won’t)

But if I can laugh off sunlun vile chants as banter then you have different moral compass to me anyway.

I’ll leave it there

I don’t need to!
What will your position be if she is found not guilty of any wrongdoing? Defamation of character? Will you happily take the potential criminal charges on the chin?

My version.. there is no ‘my version’ - she MIGHT not be guilty.

As for you leaving it there.. if only!

 

[Juninhoburger]

She's guilty. You don't even need to be an expert lip reader to tell what she's saying, it's obvious.

Only an idiot (or troll) would try to argue the opposite.

 

[Teesste]

Assuming this moron understands what happened can we also drop him a banning order through his door too. (This is his response to the statement on the MFC Facebook page).

Yeah it’s terrible that the Club doesn’t want to be associated with racist scum but for poor old Anth it’s not like the good old days!

It’s sad that these people stand alongside us every Saturday

 

[BoroMart]

She’s clearly doing a monkey gesture, there’s zero excuse for that newy, zero co fusion about it. It’s vile

 

[newyddion]

She’s clearly doing a monkey gesture, there’s zero excuse for that newy, zero co fusion about it. It’s vile

No excuse.. if it’s being used as a racist gesture.

 

[BoroMart]

No excuse.. if it’s being used as a racist gesture.

Why else would you do a monkey gesture, I doubt f@&n bubbles was in attendance

 

[Jedi boro]

You honestly think there’s going be a trial don’t you that the club is really going to look into the meaning.

Zero tolerance means just that no justification for racist acts.

 

[Blindschool]

Taken aback by that video.

I naively thought that very specific type of racist abuse had been well and truly driven from the English game, sadly not. I hope the culprit is on the receiving end of a hefty ban but also perhaps some F***ing education?!

14 years of a right wing populist government together with the 'anti-woke' movement has reactivated overt racism. It never went away.

 

[newyddion]

Why else would you do a monkey gesture, I doubt f@&n bubbles was in attendance

if there was a man there that looked like a monkey?

Gareth Bale, Wayne Rooney.. even our very own Tony Mowbray all have features that could be described as monkey like.

It’s not outside the realms of possibility.

 

[atypical_boro]

It is extremely jarring to see how comfortable she seems making these gestures, one could only assume she does it regularly if these are her views, so it’s surprising that no one other footage exists/complaints have been made about her.

I agree she should be banned etc, but I do see what newy is saying in that an investigation should be carried out first.

I also don’t think you can give someone a banning order for calling the club “woke”. Sure, he may well be a Doyle, even a racist Doyle, but saying the word “woke” in a condescending tone cannot be, in itself, a criminal offence.

 

[TeessideCleveland]

It’s not outside the realms of possibility.

It absolutely is

 

[Laughing]

Stop talking crap.

I am going to disagree with you a bit here @r00fie1. None of us should condemn someone without a full investigation. We have a legal process that needs to be brought to bear. Not just jump to a conclusion, even if that conclusion seems obvious.

I think that is all newy is saying. And I tend to agree.