Bibby Stockolm Evacuated

Using barges to house sylum seekers is wholly punative. The government want to be seen to be making it difficult for folks seeking safety and actively punishing them.

If any of this were a cost based exercise the government would either, use the cheape hotel option or, better yet, start processing them. It doesn't.

The government know this works on some of their voter base, they will have targetted polling. You and I know it because LBC are taking calls suggesting that Anderson is right and if the foriegn scroungers insist on coming here they should be grateful for a bed and 3 squares a day.

Anyone supporting this treatment of asylum seekers are either stupid or cruel. I don't know nor care which, to be honest.
 
I agree with the processing facilities being provided and starting sooner. Preferably in the country they arrive in. We should have these facilities. The fact we don't is terrible in my opinion but as it stands with the situation as it is, what do we do with the current situation. It's not good on any side that these people are dying trying to come to our shores. There's a lot that needs changing
We need to set up facilities where asylum can be sought in other countries but we also need some reform in the benefits that are given to some of them that makes the UK such an attractive proposition. I have no problem with genuine refugees who are fleeing their countries through fear of their lives or religious persecution but nobody can deny that there is a significant amount of economic migrants that take these chances. That in my opinion is not what the refugee system was ever meant to be.
 
Aztec chimera said:
I agree with the processing facilities being provided and starting sooner. Preferably in the country they arrive in. We should have these facilities. The fact we don't is terrible in my opinion but as it stands with the situation as it is, what do we do with the current situation. It's not good on any side that these people are dying trying to come to our shores. There's a lot that needs changing
We need to set up facilities where asylum can be sought in other countries but we also need some reform in the benefits that are given to some of them that makes the UK such an attractive proposition. I have no problem with genuine refugees who are fleeing their countries through fear of their lives or religious persecution but nobody can deny that there is a significant amount of economic migrants that take these chances. That in my opinion is not what the refugee system was ever meant to be.
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Economic migrants would be returned to their country of origin, if we bothered to process any claimants.
 
Aztec chimera said:
I agree with the processing facilities being provided and starting sooner. Preferably in the country they arrive in. We should have these facilities. The fact we don't is terrible in my opinion but as it stands with the situation as it is, what do we do with the current situation. It's not good on any side that these people are dying trying to come to our shores. There's a lot that needs changing
We need to set up facilities where asylum can be sought in other countries but we also need some reform in the benefits that are given to some of them that makes the UK such an attractive proposition. I have no problem with genuine refugees who are fleeing their countries through fear of their lives or religious persecution but nobody can deny that there is a significant amount of economic migrants that take these chances. That in my opinion is not what the refugee system was ever meant to be.
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Interesting hypocrisy of someone admitting they went to a foreign country to earn money and then complaining about economic migrants
 
SmallTown said:
Interesting hypocrisy of someone admitting they went to a foreign country to earn money and then complaining about economic migrants
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A country that I applied for and was granted a work visa due to my skill set which the country i was to work in having a shortage of, before travelling there. Your point is?
 
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Aztec chimera said:
A country that I applied for and was granted a work visa due to my skill set which the country i was to work in having a shortage of, before travelling there. Your point is?
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I've made my point. You complain about economic migrants and yet you once were an economic migrant. At best that's a very arrogant view that you have more rights than people coming here. At worst it's just hypocrisy
 
SmallTown said:
I've made my point. You complain about economic migrants and yet you once were an economic migrant. At best that's a very arrogant view that you have more rights than people coming here. At worst it's just hypocrisy
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How on earth is that arrogant or hypocrisy? The circumstances in which I worked in a foreign country are very different to how many of the economic migrants arrive in the UK. You knew that but it fits your narrative and style. No surprise.
 
Aztec chimera said:
How on earth is that arrogant or hypocrisy? The circumstances in which I worked in a foreign country are very different to how many of the economic migrants arrive in the UK. You knew that but it fits your narrative and style. No surprise.
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How do you know what people's circumstances are? That's very presumptuous of you. I still feel my point stands. It's not really right for you to complain about economic migrants, whilst having been an economic migrant.
 
Why not allow these "immigrants" to work while their claim is being processed? It happens in other countries. We have shortages of workers in a lot of sectors that may well be filled by these unfortunate people. Why not look at their skills and experience and see what they have to offer. Instead of costing the tax payer, they could be contributing- But I think we all know the reason why.
 
Trug said:
Why not allow these "immigrants" to work while their claim is being processed? It happens in other countries. We have shortages of workers in a lot of sectors that may well be filled by these unfortunate people. Why not look at their skills and experience and see what they have to offer. Instead of costing the tax payer, they could be contributing- But I think we all know the reason why.
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That's a good idea. Or we could process them and get the legal asylum seekers working and send back the ones who fail the checks
 
Trug said:
Why not allow these "immigrants" to work while their claim is being processed? It happens in other countries. We have shortages of workers in a lot of sectors that may well be filled by these unfortunate people. Why not look at their skills and experience and see what they have to offer. Instead of costing the tax payer, they could be contributing- But I think we all know the reason why.
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Their claims aren't even being processed. If they were then some of them would be working.
 
SmallTown said:
How do you know what people's circumstances are? That's very presumptuous of you. I still feel my point stands. It's not really right for you to complain about economic migrants, whilst having been an economic migrant.
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You're very limited in your knowledge of how the world outside of your electric car in London works and it's glaringly obvious
 
Aztec chimera said:
You're very limited in your knowledge of how the world outside of your electric car in London works and it's glaringly obvious
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What makes you say that? Or are yiu just randomly throwing insults because I disagree with you? If it's the kematter, be better but if it's the former I look forward to hearing how you formed this seemingly silly opinion
 
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