Beeching Axe.

Colin Warnek said:
And the Whitby to Saltburn would be greatly used now.

Reversing Beeching would be a far smarter move for this country than HS2. Environmentally, economically and would level up far more than any quicker train.

In recent years the Galashiels and Okehampton lines reopening have been hailed as successes but they’re only rebuilding what we once had. Needs to happen everywhere.
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We can and should do both.
 
HarryVegas said:
IIRC wasn't Rosedale just a mineral line? I'd imagine those maps are passenger lines.
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Well it has got the line of Paddy Waddell's railway on it which was never built and the line through Swainby that only served Ailesbury mine in Scugdale and numerous other branches that only served ironstone mines so it seems odd to omit the longest and most famous branch of the lot.
 
Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants said:
I walked the cinder track to Whitby and wondered how it connected to the other rail line from the Esk. I know the track used to go across the golf course and down to sandsend way, but was there a junction further back to join the Esk line?
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This is my go to site for examining the relationship between our towns then and now, the shape of railways can often be seen in the layout of roads and where stations and goods yards have gone there was obviously existing building around them so you sort of get ghost stations
Side-by-side Maps - Warning this site may take most of your free time...
 
chickenrunner said:
Well it has got the line of Paddy Waddell's railway on it which was never built and the line through Swainby that only served Ailesbury mine in Scugdale and numerous other branches that only served ironstone mines so it seems odd to omit the longest and most famous branch of the lot.
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Ah yes. I used to live in Moorsholm where the church clockface overlooks an empty field where the railway would have been.
 
They sent out people to stations to count number of people using them. On the North side of the West country at station that we used for commute they told the counters not to arrive until after 11:0 when surprise surprise the footfall was light and they justified closing a lot of stations.
 
speckyget said:
Interesting cove, your Ernest Marples. The original Tory bad egg - corrupt, amoral, eventually scarpering to Monaco to escape the fallout of 30 years' unpaid tax.

Would barely move the needle on the repulsive-o-meter these days.
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cove. had to look it up, feel better for doing so. thanks for the introduction to it.
 
I think the 60s post war revolution changed the world, some things for better, some things for worse.

Beeching was amidst a wave of independence, personal transport with the motorcar was the new groovy thing, the Americans wanted to sell us them, and people lapped it up - the “Crosstown Traffic” spirit.

Now, I think there needs to be an admission the pushing of cars and roads in this navigable country was a big mistake made by the 60s generation.
 
Redwurzel said:
Whitby to Saltburn line didn't really join the Esk Valley line until Whitby Town Station. The Saltburn line had a station at West Cliff which is now abandoned down a little cul de sec. You would never know it was there.
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Unless you made the mistake I did once intending to meet someone off the train, put Whitby Station in the SatNav search, which it interpreted as Whitby, Station Avenue, and think “that’ll be right” 🙄. I was late and unpopular. It still looks quite station like as I recall though.
 
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