Asylum seeker guilty of Hartlepool stabbing death

Since1973 said:
He hasn’t lived in the UK for that period of time, he has lived in Europe, I believe he lived in Germany for 10 years - should the tories have processed his claim in Germany? Where was he fleeing from?
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Well if there was a proper robust system in place to review the application then this query could be reviewed. He would then be either a genuine asylum seeker or an illegal immigrant depending on the findings.
Without an application review then your question can't be accurately answered.
 
Since1973 said:
I fail to see how a person from Morocco (Where numerous British Nationals travel to with no concerns) who has lived in Europe for around 13 years including 10 in Germany would have any possibility of being granted asylum in this country.
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So why hadn't his claim been processed and rejected?
 
Unravel_Morrison said:
So why hadn't his claim been processed and rejected?
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I don’t know?

But if it had been we would be in one of 2 situations -

Rejected - He would almost certainly have still have been here going through various appeals funded by the tax payer instead of on him being on the next flight back to Marrakesh.

Accepted - An enquiry would now be taking place into how in gods name we accepted his application.

I have no issue with genuine asylum seekers who are fleeing (Using the term literally and not taking over a decade to arrive here) war torn countries but the system is just being totally abused by economic migrants.
 
Since1973 said:
I don’t know?

But if it had been we would be in one of 2 situations -

Rejected - He would almost certainly have still have been here going through various appeals funded by the tax payer instead of on him being on the next flight back to Marrakesh.

Accepted - An enquiry would now be taking place into how in gods name we accepted his application.

I have no issue with genuine asylum seekers who are fleeing (Using the term literally and not taking over a decade to arrive here) war torn countries but the system is just being totally abused by economic migrants.
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The cuts to the judicial system from 2010 onwards is why these appeals would be ongoing. If we had a properly funded system it would be a more efficient process.

The same reason why the processing of applications take so long in the first place. Underfunding as a deliberate policy choice.

These are the direct result of policy decisions - reversing them would solve the issue. Any other policy, whether Rwanda or ECHR or whatever, is just a sideshow.
 
Since1973 said:
I don’t know?

But if it had been we would be in one of 2 situations -

Rejected - He would almost certainly have still have been here going through various appeals funded by the tax payer instead of on him being on the next flight back to Marrakesh.

Accepted - An enquiry would now be taking place into how in gods name we accepted his application.

I have no issue with genuine asylum seekers who are fleeing (Using the term literally and not taking over a decade to arrive here) war torn countries but the system is just being totally abused by economic migrants.
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Well, firstly the system is being deliberately gamed so no applications get processed quickly.

Secondly, his acceptance or not wouldn't have been based on whether he answered the 'thinking of murdering people' question correctly.

If he'd been rejected then I don't know what would happen in terms of returning him to wherever. It is complicated and it appears that 'send them back' is just a slogan used by morons.
 
Unravel_Morrison said:
Secondly, his acceptance or not wouldn't have been based on whether he answered the 'thinking of murdering people' question correctly.
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You know he would have been asked questions if that nature.
Unravel_Morrison said:
If he'd been rejected then I don't know what would happen in terms of returning him to wherever. It is complicated
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Why is it complicated? he would have been returned to a country that numerous British Tourists feel safe to visit every year and have done for a number of years. It has been made complicated by people making excuses that it is complicated.
 
Since1973 said:
I fail to see how a person from Morocco (Where numerous British Nationals travel to with no concerns) who has lived in Europe for around 13 years including 10 in Germany would have any possibility of being granted asylum in this country.
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Then the Tory government should have focussed on dealing with the application quickly
 
Since1973 said:
I fail to see how a person from Morocco (Where numerous British Nationals travel to with no concerns) who has lived in Europe for around 13 years including 10 in Germany would have any possibility of being granted asylum in this country
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People are being encouraged to go on holiday to Rwanda at the Emirates Stadium but we're taking in refugees from that 'safe country'.

Why not Morocco if they're fleeing persecution. Perceived or otherwise.

Let's getting the reviewing process doing what it should do, rather than being hampered to allow this sort of thing to happen.
 
Since1973 said:
You know he would have been asked questions if that nature.

Why is it complicated? he would have been returned to a country that numerous British Tourists feel safe to visit every year and have done for a number of years. It has been made complicated by people making excuses that it is complicated.
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Because it is complicated.

It's people thinking things are simple that causes a lot of the problems in the public discourse.

Explain how his deportation works if Morocco don't want him.
 
northernrower said:
An absolutely horrific story. Unfortunately incidents are becoming all too common now with illegal immigrants. I'm not sure what the answer is, but stopping illegal immigration and ensuring adequete vetting for those coming into the country is becoming desperately important. I genuinely worry about that the country will be like when my children grow up.

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Extremist Ahmed Alid guilty of Hartlepool knife murder

Moroccan asylum seeker Ahmed Alid told police he stabbed two men in protest at the Gaza conflict.
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You worry about the country because someone killed other people?
 
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