Asylum seeker guilty of Hartlepool stabbing death

[Unravel_Morrison]

It was suggested that carrying in knife in your home is not a crime in itself.

It isn't. The law changed in 2021 to extend along with in a public place (which it was before), but it has to be something that is either a weapon only (like a bayonet), something that has been altered to be used as a weapon or being carried or used with intention to injure someone. If the police turn up and you have a knife in your kitchen then they're not going to arrest you.

 

[1finny]

Thank you. Regrettably with some people once you criticise 'asylum seekers' - and I use that term loosely - you are called a racist. The reality is that many of those with bad intentions and are not fleeing danger are also a danger to genuine asylum seekers.

If we are not careful this country could experience the same social disorder Ireland has experienced recently. Ireland is a microcosm. Young men who were harassing and assaulting girls outside schools, three girls were stabbed by 'foreigners' and local people feeling dis empowered and disenfranchised by 'outsiders' given priority in housing and other areas.


This resulted in large scale public disorder in Dublin with the inhabitants demanding people entering Ireland and not properly vetted are not allowed into their city. It has made the politicians stop and listen to the people.

Wow - that’s a wild interpretation of events to suit a narrative if ever there was one.

Many of these people are not fleeing from danger, they are economic migrants, not asylum seekers. Many are young men. It is the women and children who I have empathy for. They are left at home to struggle.

Unfortunately, many do not share the same values as we do and treat women as second class citizens. This is because this is acceptable in their own countries. Poor or no vetting has resulted in men who are criminals in their own country now in a position to commit crimes here. We do not know how many are here because of the monumental c... up to secure our borders and protect our citizens.

They could have sought asylum in the first country they entered in Europe but clearly see this country as a 'soft touch' so make the effort to come here instead. We now have most of the major drugs gangs run by Albanians. People supposedly coming here to flee danger have set up their own money making nefarious activities.

There is nothing racist or xenophobic about wanting to protect our own people from those who would wish them harm. Or want to exploit the generosity of this country.

Many, many, many - have you got any numbers please?

I don’t know?

But if it had been we would be in one of 2 situations -

Rejected - He would almost certainly have still have been here going through various appeals funded by the tax payer instead of on him being on the next flight back to Marrakesh.

Accepted - An enquiry would now be taking place into how in gods name we accepted his application.

I have no issue with genuine asylum seekers who are fleeing (Using the term literally and not taking over a decade to arrive here) war torn countries but the system is just being totally abused by economic migrants.

Have you got the numbers and evidence to inform us how the system is ‘just being abused by economic migrants?’

 

[LaPennaBianca]

They could have sought asylum in the first country they entered in Europe but clearly see this country as a 'soft touch' so make the effort to come here instead.

The UK is fifth in Europe as a destination for asylum seekers, behind Germany, France, Italy and Sweden.

Refugees are not bound to remain in the first 'safe' place they get to. They are permitted, under the 1951 Refugee Convention, to transit through countries until they reach one where they wish to claim asylum. This ensures that the burden of dealing with refugees is more fairly distributed. Despite this, 70% of refugees stay in a neighbouring country i.e the first safe one. Usually another country in the global south.
source: https://www.rescue.org/uk/article/f...t=2.,million refugees from neighbouring Syria.

Thank you. Regrettably with some people once you criticise 'asylum seekers' - and I use that term loosely - you are called a racist. The reality is that many of those with bad intentions and are not fleeing danger are also a danger to genuine asylum seekers.

Nobody is calling you a racist here. The issue is that this man's claim was not dealt with quickly enough.

 

[Pak_Doo_Ik]

The UK is fifth in Europe as a destination for asylum seekers, behind Germany, France, Italy and Sweden.

Refugees are not bound to remain in the first 'safe' place they get to. They are permitted, under the 1951 Refugee Convention, to transit through countries until they reach one where they wish to claim asylum. This ensures that the burden of dealing with refugees is more fairly distributed. Despite this, 70% of refugees stay in a neighbouring country i.e the first safe one. Usually another country in the global south.
source: https://www.rescue.org/uk/article/facts-about-refugees-key-facts-faqs-and-statistics#:~:text=2.,million refugees from neighbouring Syria.



Nobody is calling you a racist here. The issue is that this man's claim was not dealt with quickly enough.

Cmon LaPenna you know the rules, please do not try to influence people by using facts and pieces of legislation.

Word of mouth, the daily mail and John down the road (or 30p Lee unfortunately in my case) tells us that this country is being run amok with illegal immigrants and they are to blame for everything from increasing crime rates, social unrest, through to huge NHS waiting lists and rising unemployment.

 

[Muttley]

 

[Starbuck]

I thought Brexit was going to put a stop to all this asylum seeking kind of thing