Assombalonga going?

I agree he's been disappointing this season, when he was made captain in the first game of the season against Watford, I thought Britt could have a good season here and with Warnock in charge here's hoping but that's not materialised so far.

So yes you could say '4 goals in 21 games - that's shocking he cost 15m he should be getting more than that' but how many seasons since he's been here has he finished top scorer?
 
Comparing his scoring to seasons at forest and previous clubs tho should probably compare how he was played too as he generally started and finished games consistently except coming back from injury. Many of his appearances for us have been partial games and we have used him very differently
 
TheFair86 said:
Comparing his scoring to seasons at forest and previous clubs tho should probably compare how he was played too as he generally started and finished games consistently except coming back from injury. Many of his appearances for us have been partial games and we have used him very differently
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It’s only this season really where he hasn’t been a regular starter, but yes I get your point, he has struggled to adapt to what has been asked of him.
 
He has been the most started striker since he signed, yet has never ever got more than 15 in a season in this league and got that only once in his first season playing with Traore and Bamford.
We should have moved him on then.
We definitely should now.
 
the_holgate_roof said:
It’s only this season really where he hasn’t been a regular starter, but yes I get your point, he has struggled to adapt to what has been asked of him.
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I don’t think it is, I looked before at
His appearance times per game over seasons since he joined us and he generally played more at forest and previous club. He has 4 goals this season and I agree, should be more, but as can’t throw his appearances at him when he has an average as low as 55 minutes per game played. As a striker that’s got to affect your confidence
 
indeedido said:
He has been the most started striker since he signed, yet has never ever got more than 15 in a season in this league and got that only once in his first season playing with Traore and Bamford.
We should have moved him on then.
We definitely should now.
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Easy to say but that’s in a team that had pulis football and we had fletcher, Britt, bamford and gestede. Last season he played less than half the game 8 times. Missed 9 games through injury and unused sub in one game. Of those 36 total appearances, he came off the bench as a sub 8 times and was subbed early 7 times, once as an injury.

Tough to score more than 15 a season if you’re not playing, and no one covered themselves on glory that season but his 5 goals in the last 7 games of the season kept us up.
 
TheFair86 said:
I don’t think it is, I looked before at
His appearance times per game over seasons since he joined us and he generally played more at forest and previous club. He has 4 goals this season and I agree, should be more, but as can’t throw his appearances at him when he has an average as low as 55 minutes per game played. As a striker that’s got to affect your confidence
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If you are performing the job the manager asks for you, and are getting shots away and looking a threat surely you'd get more minutes?

If you're falling on your ****, ballooning penalties with a smile on your face, never that interested, never busting a gut, missing one on ones, have poor control and no will or stomach for a battle with the centre half marking you, then maybe you end up getting less minutes?
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
It is but to be fair only 13 starts - I don't think it helps either Assombalonga or Akpom to be rotated so much. It's almost play 1 one, miss one and that doesn't help build rhythm or develop partnerships.
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Completely agree with this. If you want to look at the stats he's 1 in 3 for Boro that's pretty good if you ask me especially most played on his own....SOME posters think we can just go out and replace him with no money....they are living in cloud cukooland !
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
It is but to be fair only 13 starts - I don't think it helps either Assombalonga or Akpom to be rotated so much. It's almost play 1 one, miss one and that doesn't help build rhythm or develop partnerships.
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I don't know if that has made that much difference. He's still been playing once a week, such has been the pace with which the games have come. Had he been playing once a fortnight, I'd think your argument more convincing.

I don't think he's been as awful as has made out, but the lynch mob always have to have a target at Boro, and having sniffed aroung Sav and Bola at the start of the season, they've settled on Britt.

I won't be sorry if he goes; I don't think he's a very good football, and he's not stepped up to the challenge of captaincy. I think Akpom is a better technical player and a better link up man.
 
Caesium137 said:
If you're falling on your ****, ballooning penalties with a smile on your face, never that interested, never busting a gut, missing one on ones, have poor control and no will or stomach for a battle with the centre half marking you, then maybe you end up getting less minutes?
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I often agree with you but I think that's too harsh an assessment
 
If we'd paid £2m for him and he was on a modest contract he'd be regarded as a brilliant signing, but he isn't and he's not.

I'd like to see him sign a new contract, on vastly reduced terms obviously, but he'll go where the money is and I don't blame him for that really.
 
Nobby you do write some tosh! We have 2 players whose scoring is equal if not better. Watmore cost nothing, Johnson a couple of million, both currently more valuable, more cost effective than Britt.
However this doesn’t suit your agenda - no matter how daft you look!
 
fassy said:
Britt: Games 350 / Goals 141
Akpom: 195/35
Fletcher: 162/39
Watmore: 163/29
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Different players back then:

Britt - pre-kneee injury was faster, stronger, more dynamic, he is physically and emotionally a different player to 23-24 year old Britt

Akpom - a lot of that is sub appearances and as a wide player

Fletcher - First half of his career was as a wide player

Watmore first half of career as a wide player and a perenial sub
 
He has started 13 league matches of our 22 and completed 7. In those 13 matches he has scored 4 inc a penalty.
He has come on as sub in another 7 and not scored.

We have lost 6 times and he has started 4 of them.
He has started in just 5 of our 10 league wins.
We have 19 points from his 13 starts and 17 points from the 9 he hasn't, including our best performance v Swansea.
He has started 4 of our last 5 defeats.
We play better and get better results when he doesn't start and he doesn't impact the game if he comes on.

It genuinely isn't personal, I hope he does alright somewhere else, but he is poor.
 
festa5 said:
I don't mind Britt if I'm honest but there's no getting away from the fact we've massively overpaid for what he is.

If we get £2.5m for him, save 6 months of daft wages and replace him then that's decent business at this stage of his contract.
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Not a cat in hells chance of getting anything like 2.5m for him, we'll be lucky to just get him off the wage bill for the next 6 months
 
Priv said:
With the exception of a single league one season before he lost his pace he’s a 15 goal a season striker.
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Britts record in the championship:

14/15 - 15 goals (curtailed by injury)
15/16 - 1 goal (missed most of season)
16/17 - 14 goals
17/18 - 15 goals
18/19 - 14 goals
19/20 - 11 goals
20/21 - 4 goals in half a season

15 goals is a very good season for Britt rather than expected.
 
TheFair86 said:
I don’t think it is, I looked before at
His appearance times per game over seasons since he joined us and he generally played more at forest and previous club. He has 4 goals this season and I agree, should be more, but as can’t throw his appearances at him when he has an average as low as 55 minutes per game played. As a striker that’s got to affect your confidence
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Its not hindered Watmore - who`s career nearly ended twice.
Hes had the bollox to train on his own and fight back to fitness - on his own.
5 goals in 8 games - and how many was he sub or subbed?
When youre on the pitch you learn to score.
Watmore could have 20 by the end of this season - for lots of sweat and a few quid(y)
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People would be better judging Watmore on a full season of games rather than 8.

I'm not knocking him, he's got a smashing attitude & hopefully will score many goals in the future but he's on a high at the moment induced by coming back from injury under a manager who rates him and starting well. It's too early to be calling him a world beater.
 
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