Are the Government massaging the death rate.

bear66 said:
The first figure given by the ONS was 40 more than the official 170 at the time (20 March). We're a long way from that position now.
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Be interesting to see what it is now although knowing won’t help the situation, it’s more about morbid curiosity now.
 
Redwurzel said:
I would say deaths are under reported because home deaths will likely not be put down to Covid 19
. We need to know how many deaths of all courses are being reported and take the normal figure off that to get close to Covid 19 deaths.
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Why do we need to do any of that at all?

What does reporting the death figures actually achieve? The media are essentially turning human beings into 0's and 1's in a computer database and social media is awash with people actually arguing over who's Death Model Predictor 2000 is correct.
It's morbid and quite frankly a little bit disturbing.
 
They announced a further 10 deaths today, bringing the total to 59. However, those 10 deaths occured across the last four days, not all from yesterday.

This is related to the problem about the daily reporting of deaths being delayed at the weekend.
 
Further 10 deaths announced by South Tees NHS Trust, taking total to 69. Deaths occured over previous three days.

No further deaths announced by North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust, total remaining at 16.
 
South Tees NHS Trust has experienced the second highest number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region (behind South Tyneside and Sunderland) and the 26th highest in the country (out of 164 NHS Trusts).
 
To answer the question asked

The death rate is morbid I agree, but it helps to calculate how many people have had the virus. My understanding is that only a tiny % of the UK population has been tested so far and that was test to show if they have it, not have they had it. So current test figures are not very useful for predicting how many people have had the virus.

To be fairly safe we need a reliable vaccine available to everyone (we are told that could be over 12 months away) or herd immunity or stay in lock down till the vaccine is available. In 1918/9 that was 30% of population to have had the virus, with about 0.1% of the population unfortunately passing away. Today that would be around 65000 deaths in the UK. Hopefully with modern technology we can avoid 65000.

I am amazed with the Chinese figures, if true not many people there have had the virus. Possibly only 4.5m in a population of 1300 million?
 
Most countries are working on how soon to relax lockdown restrictions. From a low base you can test, isolate and track contacts to minimise on going transmissions till the vaccine arrived. An antibody test will give more freedom to those who are hopefully immune, but a reliable test seems to be difficult to produce so far.

Germany has Corona taxis to do this follow up. Some German states use public servants on furlough to do the follow up, including teachers.
 
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Hopefully we are one of the countries who are in close contact with South Korea. We need to do exactly what they have been doing as soon as it is down to a manageable level.
 
Further 4 deaths announced by South Tees NHS Trust, taking total to 73.

One further death announced by North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust, taking total to 17.

South Tees NHS Trust remains second highest in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region (out of 25 NHS Trusts) and the 30th highest (from 26th yesterday) in the country (out of 164 NHS Trusts in England).
 
No. About half of people testing positive were then hospitalised a few weeks ago. Although, it's probably a greater percentage than that now as those with milder symptoms are probably not teaching the risk of going to a hospital at the moment.

The critical number is those in ICU units. I don't know that number but about 350 were in critical care in the north East and Yorkshire (graph from press briefing yesterday). That is out of 7061 total positive cases.

Others may know if local Trust figures are publicised.
 
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