Anyone fancy a dip in the sea?

Jonny Ingbar

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No not really, was meant to be a dig at what's happening now. The thing is is that these discharges have been going on for over 100 years without anyone really doing anything to stop them. Its only recently that we have been able to see the data.
It pretty much sums up the clusterfuck that's is this country after a dozen or so years of Tory government I think.

Profit before people.
 

Nero

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No not really, was meant to be a dig at what's happening now. The thing is is that these discharges have been going on for over 100 years without anyone really doing anything to stop them. Its only recently that we have been able to see the data.
Very true. Places like the Firth of Forth literally just screened sewage, removed rags, macerated the rest and discharged directly into the Forth. That type of stuff was common practice in the whole of Britain.

It was an EU directive (pesky Europe) that stopped that and forced sewage to be treated before discharge to the sea. The North East has loads of coastal treatment works built in the early 2000's because of that EU directive.
 

NYboro

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Very true. Places like the Firth of Forth literally just screened sewage, removed rags, macerated the rest and discharged directly into the Forth. That type of stuff was common practice in the whole of Britain.

It was an EU directive (pesky Europe) that stopped that and forced sewage to be treated before discharge to the sea. The North East has loads of coastal treatment works built in the early 2000's because of that EU directive.
Never mind; we can now get rid of those dreadful laws.
 

S7DiscoDown

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I went on holidays to my grandparents in Carnforth in the late 70s and 80s. They used to take me swimming in the sea at Blackpool nearly everyday.

I turned out alright 😂
 

uncle_rico

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We went to Runswick last week and I couldn’t bel the a,Lunt of people in the sea. Clearly they don’t watch or read the news!
 

Norman_Conquest

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The wife's cooked the crabs and set them aside for cleaning tomorrow. I will be eating them for my evening meal, if I am not about from Friday onwards, you know the **** got me. ;)

I read last month that the French are looking for the EU to issue Britain with a lawsuit.

 

redblood

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I'd probably leave it a few months...

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Each red dot is a legalised release of untreated sewage, TODAY 06:30am.
Each grey dot is where the monitoring systems are under maintenance and the alerts are switched off.

Source is "Surfers Against Sewage"

The good ship United Kingdom is adrift is a sea of turds navigated by a bunch of uncaring profiteers and incompetents.
It's disgraceful what the modern world is doing to its oceans.
Many people around the world are unaware that everything that goes down their sink including the kitchen,
laundry and bathroom also ends up in the sewerage system which then ends up in the worlds waterways.
Detergents, soap, bleach, cooking oils etc etc etc..
It's mind boggling when you think of all that waste from the billions of homes around the world that are connected
to the sewerage system that is released on a daily basis.
On top of that we have planes jettisoning fuel over the oceans and oil spills from tankers etc etc etc.
 

Norman_Conquest

Well-known member
It's disgraceful what the modern world is doing to its oceans.
Many people around the world are unaware that everything that goes down their sink including the kitchen,
laundry and bathroom also ends up in the sewerage system which then ends up in the worlds waterways.
Detergents, soap, bleach, cooking oils etc etc etc..
It's mind boggling when you think of all that waste from the billions of homes around the world that are connected
to the sewerage system that is released on a daily basis.
On top of that we have planes jettisoning fuel over the oceans and oil spills from tankers etc etc etc.
If we kill off our oceans, we will kill the planet.
 

Norman_Conquest

Well-known member
No we won't. The planet will go on spinning around the sun, life will survive and evolve and the human race will be nothing more than a stain in the fossil record. The planet will be fine, the human species however (and most of the mega fauna) won't be.
You may be right but life on the planet won’t be fine.
 

Muttley

Well-known member
You may be right but life on the planet won’t be fine.
No it won't be "fine", many species will become extinct but others will thrive, evolve and adapt, the oceans will clear and life will return to the blue jewel as it has done following the several extinction periods in its existence.
 

redblood

Well-known member
No it won't be "fine", many species will become extinct but others will thrive, evolve and adapt, the oceans will clear and life will return to the blue jewel as it has done following the several extinction periods in its existence.
That's all very well but the world over its previous periods didn't have eight billion
people and all its waste to deal with or the industrial waste that has fouled the oceans for centuries
 

Millbrook

Well-known member
It's disgraceful what the modern world is doing to its oceans.
Many people around the world are unaware that everything that goes down their sink including the kitchen,
laundry and bathroom also ends up in the sewerage system which then ends up in the worlds waterways.
Detergents, soap, bleach, cooking oils etc etc etc..
It's mind boggling when you think of all that waste from the billions of homes around the world that are connected
to the sewerage system that is released on a daily basis.
On top of that we have planes jettisoning fuel over the oceans and oil spills from tankers etc etc etc.
Yes but then it is supposed to be treated before it gets into the waterways. There is no other way to dispose of it other than the waterways but it should be cleaned as it enters under normal conditions.

Storm overflows were supposed to happen during storms when there was not the capacity to treat the volume of waste bulked out by loads of excess surface water. If companies are using storm over flows as an alternative to treating waste under normal conditions then they deserve to be prosecuted.
 

redblood

Well-known member
Yes but then it is supposed to be treated before it gets into the waterways. There is no other way to dispose of it other than the waterways but it should be cleaned as it enters under normal conditions.

Storm overflows were supposed to happen during storms when there was not the capacity to treat the volume of waste bulked out by loads of excess surface water. If companies are using storm over flows as an alternative to treating waste under normal conditions then they deserve to be prosecuted.
I agree that it is supposed to be treated before being released into the waterways. or being of no other way of disposing of it.
I was pointing out the fact that the sewerage that is being released around the UK at the moment
isn't treated and that it also includes all the chemicals and junk that I mentioned.
However, even when treated, it is done so with the use of chemicals such as chlorine and acids.
I'm sure the creatures and plant life that exist in the oceans and waterways are none too pleased about that.

We also seem to forget about the amount of jettisoned fuel over the oceans or the run off of chemicals, fertiliser and pesticides used in agriculture
as well as fire retardants that make their way to the waterways, more so these days due to floods and bushfires that the world is experiencing.
It can't go on forever without dire consequences.
 
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