A very dangerous day

Medvedev has told the rulers of Luhansk and Donetsk that Putin will not be in power for long. He, Patrushev and Bortnikov (FSB boss) are fed up with Putin. Word is it was Patrushev who had Dugin bombed. Putin was on holiday in Sochi but flew back into Moscow yesterday. So there is going to be at the very least, a power struggle in the weeks ahead. Trouble is, there is no guarantee that whoever comes out on top will be any less unpleasant.
 
The rhetoric always begins with ‘there’ll be no negotiation’ and it usually ends with negotiations.

Let’s just cut to the chase.

Nobody is going to win this war. There will just be more deaths, injuries and money wasted in times of increasing hardship across the world.

I would be inclined to inform the Ukraine that further support is contingent on them accepting a compromise.

If they don’t they’re on their own and they will loose all of Ukraine.

The global impact of this conflict can’t be allowed to go on indefinitely.
 
Mwelolo said:
The rhetoric always begins with ‘there’ll be no negotiation’ and it usually ends with negotiations.

Let’s just cut to the chase.

Nobody is going to win this war. There will just be more deaths, injuries and money wasted in times of increasing hardship across the world.

I would be inclined to inform the Ukraine that further support is contingent on them accepting a compromise.

If they don’t they’re on their own and they will loose all of Ukraine.

The global impact of this conflict can’t be allowed to go on indefinitely.
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We can send the peace envoy Boris Johnson over. That'll do the trick!
 
Mwelolo said:
The rhetoric always begins with ‘there’ll be no negotiation’ and it usually ends with negotiations.

Let’s just cut to the chase.

Nobody is going to win this war. There will just be more deaths, injuries and money wasted in times of increasing hardship across the world.

I would be inclined to inform the Ukraine that further support is contingent on them accepting a compromise.

If they don’t they’re on their own and they will loose all of Ukraine.

The global impact of this conflict can’t be allowed to go on indefinitely.
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The US/Nato lend lease comes into play in October. That swings things massively in Ukraine's favour, but the losses on the Russian side are so heavy that the war can't be sustained much beyond that point anyway. There are already talks going on in the background in Turkey.
Of course it will end with negotiations, despite Zelenskyy's assertion that Russian surrender is all he will accept. Not sure the powers that be in the West will want that. In the long term, that kind of thing breeds resentment and nationalism.
Maybe they will be content to see the Black Sea fleet and the Russian military in Crimea further destroyed by long range missile strikes. Who knows, but it's heading for the end game now. Not sure what regime change in Moscow will mean .... perhaps Medvedev will revert to being a "liberal" (from his ridiculous hawkish posturing) and try to get back to cosy relations with the West.
 
borolad259 said:
The Russian commander of at the Enerhodar nuclear power plant has gone all "heart of darkness" having been sacked. He and his troops have mined the plant. The Russians have activated the Nuclear anti-terrorism charter and will, if negotiations to get the commander out and de-mine the place fail, invite the French specialist PNAT unit to storm the place, with Russian special forces backing (a UN Mission).
This at a point where Putin has requested direct peace talks with Zelensky .... hoping to end the war without losing Crimea.

So, if you do praying or any of that stuff, now is a good time. Otherwise, hope to **** that this doesn't end with a big boom.

The most dangerous day of the war so far.
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You need to stop reading The Sun. Did the article have the strap line... "I'm an expert in Heart of Darkness"
 
borolad259 said:
The US/Nato lend lease comes into play in October. That swings things massively in Ukraine's favour, but the losses on the Russian side are so heavy that the war can't be sustained much beyond that point anyway. There are already talks going on in the background in Turkey.
Of course it will end with negotiations, despite Zelenskyy's assertion that Russian surrender is all he will accept. Not sure the powers that be in the West will want that. In the long term, that kind of thing breeds resentment and nationalism.
Maybe they will be content to see the Black Sea fleet and the Russian military in Crimea further destroyed by long range missile strikes. Who knows, but it's heading for the end game now. Not sure what regime change in Moscow will mean .... perhaps Medvedev will revert to being a "liberal" (from his ridiculous hawkish posturing) and try to get back to cosy relations with the West.
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I fear this may be wishful thinking.
 
TRANSIT-TRIPPER said:
Borolad259: genuine question, these are very substantial statements that you are writing on here. Can I ask where are you sourcing this information?
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Friend in the military. He has a lot of connections in Russia and the Ukraine as well as seeming to have access to intelligence that does not make the news (not until later anyway). He actually tells me much more than I pass on in here. I tend to summarise what he tells me. Tbh, I'm probably not supposed to share it.
An example would be in my opening post here, it was later confirmed that Putin had a 45 minute conversation with Macron, but I didn't see the detail of that conversation reported (ie. they were negotiating the terms of the French PNAT squad, who are the only unit in the world trained to deal with terrorist occupation of a NPP ... ordinarily they go in supported by French paratroopers but Putin insisted that it had to be Russian paras in support.)
 
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borolad259 said:
Friend in the military. He has a lot of connections in Russia and the Ukraine as well as seeming to have access to intelligence that does not make the news (not until later anyway). He actually tells me much more than I pass on in here. I tend to summarise what he tells me. Tbh, I'm probably not supposed to share it.
An example would be in my opening post here, it was later confirmed that Putin had a 45 minute conversation with Macron, but I didn't see the detail of that conversation reported (ie. they were negotiating the terms of the French PNAT squad, who are the only unit in the world trained to deal with terrorist occupation of a NPP ... ordinarily they go in supported by French paratroopers but Putin insisted that it had to be Russian paras in support.)
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So you 'know a mate' who is probably spouting guff but if he isn't is probably breaking the Official Secrets act and you are now a target of interest of both the UK government and Russian spetznaz forces :D
 
borolad259 said:
Friend in the military. He has a lot of connections in Russia and the Ukraine as well as seeming to have access to intelligence that does not make the news (not until later anyway). He actually tells me much more than I pass on in here. I tend to summarise what he tells me. Tbh, I'm probably not supposed to share it.
An example would be in my opening post here, it was later confirmed that Putin had a 45 minute conversation with Macron, but I didn't see the detail of that conversation reported (ie. they were negotiating the terms of the French PNAT squad, who are the only unit in the world trained to deal with terrorist occupation of a NPP ... ordinarily they go in supported by French paratroopers but Putin insisted that it had to be Russian paras in support.)
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Best not believe a word of this ITK stuff unless of course it comes from ComeOnBoro🥸
 
Well, possibly not.
Maybe won't bother any more.

I don't think I have broken the official secrets act though as my friend is not in the British armed forces and, I suspect, none of it is actually secret. I think the Spetznaz have more to worry about than some berk on a football message board, knoworrimeanlike.
 
borolad259 said:
Well, possibly not.
Maybe won't bother any more.

I don't think I have broken the official secrets act though as my friend is not in the British armed forces and, I suspect, none of it is actually secret. I think the Spetznaz have more to worry about than some berk on a football message board, knoworrimeanlike.
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I’d prefer you kept sharing. your mate may of course be being fed some disinformation, but I have a close mate who is involved with some people based in the Middle East. I don’t get a lot but a couple of bits I’ve had over time have lined up with your info. This probably means either the info is good and reasonably widely known, or they’re both being fed the same disinformation, which is interesting in itself. Either way I know my mate believes it and I know he isn’t a bulls**tter. I’m confident my mate isn’t the same one as yours.
 
Ingleby_Flash said:
I’d prefer you kept sharing. your mate may of course be being fed some disinformation, but I have a close mate who is involved with some people based in the Middle East. I don’t get a lot but a couple of bits I’ve had over time have lined up with your info. This probably means either the info is good and reasonably widely known, or they’re both being fed the same disinformation, which is interesting in itself. Either way I know my mate believes it and I know he isn’t a bulls**tter. I’m confident my mate isn’t the same one as yours.
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Pretty sure much of the info my pal has is genuine and, I suspect, reasonably widely known by those involved in the conflict (even if on the periphery). I should add that he speaks Russian and has studied the Russian military for 30 years. That said, he says now that he didn't realise just how bad a state they were in.
 
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