Minutes Silence and National Anthem - why?

Runners will raise an estimated £25 million for charity at the annual event, the largest half-marathon in the world.

£25 million in charity
 
Jedi boro said:
Surely you can see why the GNR went ahead people travelled from around the world for this plus charities rely on the funding.

There’s no comparison
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So only charities are allowed to raise money during the mourning period?

What about the independent pubs, burger vans etc at Blackpool and every other home ground that weekend that lost out?

I wasn’t fussed either way whether events went ahead or not; but how can some go ahead and not the other. As above with the Eton football going ahead (when other local level games were off), it’s very much ‘you can play but the others can’t’
 
I wouldn't sing the National Anthem but I would respect other people wanting or feeling the need to show their patriotism.

Same goes for taking the knee - I wouldn't do that either.

It's all about respecting other peoples wishes and I'm sure that there are many out there that would like to pay their respects to the Queen.
 
At the time and since, it smacks off football being a working man's sport and we should know our place. Ballet, theatre and other events went ahead but not football unless you go to a private school.

The whole thing smells like partygate and we should just do as we're told.

I genuinely fail to see why anyone would support forced subjugation for another human being and then be forced to pay for it to add insult to injury.

Each to their own I guess.
 
Decades of poor behaviour from a minority of football fans might have contributed to the decision. Maybe if that is the case 'football' needs to look at itself as to why people can't control themselves at matches.
 
I think we have to get real here.
Football is seen as a pariah sport by the media and those in power.

The EFL and EPL did not (imo) cancel football out of respect to the queen.
The cancelled it because they were worried sick that something would have happened (a shout during the silence, a nasty foul, abuse at a referee) to allow those who want to have a go at the game shout ‘disrespect’.
 
Jedi boro said:
No it’s not

How much money was raised for charity by our match last night ?? Or could have been raised at Blackpool.

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It didn’t need to be either or, no reason both couldn’t have gone ahead especially when the cricket and rugby did. Football is also worth billions to the economy
 
1finny said:
The cancelled it because they were worried sick that something would have happened (a shout during the silence, a nasty foul, abuse at a referee) to allow those who want to have a go at the game shout ‘disrespect’.
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So we reap what we sow. Time to get our big boy pants on and get over it. It's 10 days and then it will al be forgotten about.

(And yes, some have lost some money regarding Blackpool - hopefully it can be sorted out by rebooking accommodation, travel and if they can't go refunds from the club).
 
MolteniArcore said:
Decades of poor behaviour from a minority of football fans might have contributed to the decision. Maybe if that is the case 'football' needs to look at itself as to why people can't control themselves at matches.
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So why did they hold the silence then?

Either we can't be trusted, which is why the games were postponed, or we can. So why postpone them.
 
Inoffthebar said:
So only charities are allowed to raise money during the mourning period?

What about the independent pubs, burger vans etc at Blackpool and every other home ground that weekend that lost out?

I wasn’t fussed either way whether events went ahead or not; but how can some go ahead and not the other. As above with the Eton football going ahead (when other local level games were off), it’s very much ‘you can play but the others can’t’
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The queen was patron of 600 charities. I don’t think she was patron of a blackpool burger van.
And yes, it is more important that £25 million gets raised for charity than a football match gets postponed.
 
The answer is, as we know, is that the suits running the game are absolutely fecking clueless without an iota of common sense between them.

Absolute certainty they were praying DCMS would take the decision out of their hands. Their arses went when they were told it was up to them.

Absolutely nothing preventing them from announcing the games being off before the government announcement if that's what they were going to do anyway, but they didn't want to have to make a decision.
 
Haven`t we been saying the FA are clueless for ages so nothing was ever going to change in regards to making a decision on this

Like Festa says, arses dropped, shouldn't have been cancelled when other sports continued
 
ThePrisoner said:
If you sing the national anthem that's ok. If you don't sing the national anthem that's also ok and you will be processed in due course.*


*shamelessly lifted from yesterday's David Squire's Guardian football cartoon
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I haven't sung it since my early/mid 20s. I'll sing my own words to the anthem in my head:

Charles is our neeeew King
But we didn't ask him to be
our head of state, nah nah nah nah nah
Andys a Sweaty nonce
he nonces all night long
12million to buy freedom
Give us a republic

I'm still working on the second verse
 
MolteniArcore said:
Not sure why people are offended when asked to hold a minutes silence a few times over 10 days. It’ll be over by Monday. Calm down dear! ;)
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just give everyone the opportunity once, 10 days of mourning being enforced on everyone is just OTT. She died, sad for her family, friends and supporters. But the amount of concessions for it is like the kind of thing we mocked when the mad North Korean leader popped it.
 
MolteniArcore said:
So we reap what we sow. Time to get our big boy pants on and get over it. It's 10 days and then it will al be forgotten about.

(And yes, some have lost some money regarding Blackpool - hopefully it can be sorted out by rebooking accommodation, travel and if they can't go refunds from the club).
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The match was postponed on Friday, the day before travel, the rearranged date wasn't given until Tuesday.

Trainline don't offer refunds on advance tickets, only rearrangements, and the rearranged fixture was always going to be midweek, a time where many who bought tickets would be unable to attend.
You can only rearrange the tickets for the same route too, so it had to be a train to Blackpool.

So that's money lost unless you're able to go midweek and stay overnight or fancy a trip to Blackpool without the football.

The EFL and FA have made it clear that no support will be given to those who lost money, because "we're all in this together".
 
TheYorkshireTerrier said:
Last night Gary Phillipson announced at about 7:25 that the fan zone bar was closing in 5 minutes as the club wanted fans to get inside early so they can pay their respects and take advantage of ‘the quiet time’ for some reflection…

It was a bloody football match. Ruined the atmosphere.
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surely it's up to everyone if they want to go inside and have their reflection or stay outside and talk to their mates over a beer. It's the removal of alternative options, so that we're all effectively forced to go along that I find authoritarian
 
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Wiseman_Vaughn said:
I wouldn't sing the National Anthem but I would respect other people wanting or feeling the need to show their patriotism.

Same goes for taking the knee - I wouldn't do that either.

It's all about respecting other peoples wishes and I'm sure that there are many out there that would like to pay their respects to the Queen.
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absolutely agree, and we can see authorities have not respected alternative opinions about the monarchy. I mean people have been arrested for having a piece of blank paper. I would never boo a minutes silence, or a national anthem. If other people want that so be it, that is their individual choice, taking choice away for conformity is wrong.
 
BoroMart said:
I haven't sung it since my early/mid 20s. I'll sing my own words to the anthem in my head:
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Really? I seem to end up singing it loads, mainly at England rugby internationals I guess.

Have sang god save the king twice already: At Kingston park on Saturday and at the start of the Great North Run. It feels odds after 40 years of god save the queen. Especially the "send him victorious" bit for some reason.
 
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