Andy McDonald resigns from shadow cabinet

Blf said:
So someone working in a shop or flipping burgers should be getting £15 per hour. That's £600 a week . A nurse will get a £100 a week rise just to get on minimum wage. So then a Nurse with £30,000 of debt from getting their degree will be on the same money as a burger flipper or a cleaner or shop worker. Does that make sense.
It's no good saying well give the nurse more because it will never happen.
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What's an acceptable minimum wage in your eyes then?
Is the minimum wage dependent on what nurses are earning?
 
Blf said:
So someone working in a shop or flipping burgers should be getting £15 per hour. That's £600 a week . A nurse will get a £100 a week rise just to get on minimum wage. So then a Nurse with £30,000 of debt from getting their degree will be on the same money as a burger flipper or a cleaner or shop worker. Does that make sense.
It's no good saying well give the nurse more because it will never happen.
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even if it did it would just cause hyper inflation and the cost of everything would have to go up to cover the difference.
 
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Randy said:
What's an acceptable minimum wage in your eyes then?
Is the minimum wage dependent on what nurses are earning?
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No it's not. I picked nurse wages out because I spent 30 years in the profession.
I don't really know what is fair but I do know if some one would have paid me £31,000 a year to work in a job with little responsibility and no need to do 3 years training , or £31,000 to train ,do a degree and have £20/30,000 of debt.Then take on a high pressure job it's an easy choice. There would soon be a shortage of trained nurses .
Tje obvious answer will be we have to then give nurses an extra £10,000 to keep the difference in wages but that will never happen.
 
I cant make my mind up with Andy McDonald. He was quite the Corbynite and I think a lot of people like me wonder if the timing is for his own publicity.
Momentum are still lurking in the shadows but, at the same time, I worry that Starmer is trying to go back to the Blair centrist(capitalist) position.

Whatever happens, I have thrown my membership away. Starmer knows he missed his real chance and that was to challenge Corbyn whilst the Tories were having their leadership election.
We are now left with the most dangerous PM since the evil old septic bitch
 
So, did Starmer abide by collective responsibility as part of a shadow cabinet to stand by and defend previous policy despite not personally agreeing with it? Corbynistas attack people for disloyalty when it suits and hypocrisy when that suits, it seems.
 
The big problem for me is that the argument about minimum wage isn't really about what someone is worth in their job but what their living costs are. Low interest rates and buy to let mortgages as part of saving for retirement doesn't work in my opinion. The biggest problem is not wages or minimum wage but excessively high rents and lack of affordable housing.
 
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even if it did it would just cause hyper inflation and the cost of everything would have to go up to cover the difference.
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Hyper inflation happens with a lack of supply rather than an excess of demand. I think you just mean inflation.

A £15 per hour minimum wage isn't going to make the cost of basics like bread spiral up to £100s/£1,000s.
 
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