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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54442386#comment_141111869
Check those comments people don't want this nonsense to carry on. Try to re-evaluate your positions
@zorro_mfc my man.
#fearporn
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54442386#comment_141111869
Check those comments people don't want this nonsense to carry on. Try to re-evaluate your positions
@zorro_mfc my man.
Really? This again??
You are clearly a clever guy Alvez but I can’t help but feel that you are misguided in your appraisal of the Great Barrington Declaration.
You can’t have looked into the Great Barrington Declaration and failed to have noticed how the overwhelming majority of scientists, immunologists and virologists have either, questioned, downright dismissed or even got angry about its content?
You can’t have failed to notice that Gupta has been wrong in a large proportion of her Covid predictions throughout this pandemic? She’s sensationalist and frequently proved wrong ( ‘it’ll be over in 3 months, 130 million will die of starvation, we should let it sweep through the young healthy population)
You can’t fail to have noticed that one of the other lead trio of lead scientists has a fair degree of controversy attached to him and has been held up as an example of how not to conduct a covid antibody survey??
You can’t fail to have noticed that anybody, including you and me, could have signed up to be signatories to that declaration as ‘medical and public health scientists’ as allegedly all that was required was a name and email address?
You can’t fail to have noticed that the list of ‘1000s of signatories‘ that are ‘medical and public health scientists’ includes some made up comedy names?
You can’t help but notice that some other leading, credible anti-lockdown scientists have not signed up to that declaration?
And you really cannot have failed to notice that they do not offer a credible suggestion of how to implement their proposals beyond stuff like ‘ everybody old or vulnerable who cannot work from home stays at home and the welfare system magically pays for it all’. Riiiiiiiiggghhht. Much as that perhaps should happen, it ain’t ever going to.
You can’t have failed to have noticed that their whole suggested strategy hinges on immunity being at least present long enough to allow the herd immunity to develop? That simply isn’t known yet, so their whole theory is not based in scientific fact.( Unlike they claim. )
You also can’t have failed to notice that they ignore and dismiss lots of quantifiable evidence, such as the long term effects of covid - Gupta previously batted off covid leading to the presence of long term symptoms by saying ‘so does the flu’.
She said this would all run it’s natural course within 3 months, way back in May or some time. How’s that working out?
How can they say ‘let the young get it, they’ll be fine’ when there simply is not enough known about it yet?
A quick google or social media search on the topic leads to a few sensationalist tabloid headlines about these ‘top scientists’ ( which I remind you, could include you and I) and then a whole load of criticism from other scientists, virologists, epidemiologists, doctors etc, many of whom claim the Barrington Declaration scientists are in an overwhelming minority of people who simply are not backed up science and evidence, despite claiming exactly that.
A serious conversation most definitely needs to take place about alternatives to full lockdowns. But these scientists associated with the Great Barrington Declaration are just hindering that conversation and damaging it, in my opinion.
I started following several vocal scientists and doctors at the start of this pandemic, and some, such as Gupta, I attached some significance to, with hindsight purely because they were saying what I wanted to hear. ‘It’ll be over in a few months, herd immunity is almost here etc ‘
Unfortunately, time has shown that I was misguided, because I really wanted her, Heneghan, Sakora, Tegnell etc to be correct but at the moment the actual evidence is to the contrary.