TheBoroBuzzard
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Are some really judging his overall Boro career over half a season? Remember a certain Brazilian who became quite a player who had an average first first half of a season, showing only glimpses of what he can do.
Okay Cameron archer 18 millionBecause Rogers’ ceiling is higher than both of those two players. Neither will play for England, whereas Rogers has the talent to win international recognition. I love Tav but Rogers has the potential to reach the very top level imo. Tav is probably at his level now. And Spence is a waster who will never beat his one good season at Forest.
The fact he’s 6 months into a 4 year deal comes into play too. We also aren’t just selling him on the player he is today, it’s the potential. We bought him for the potential so the price to sell would have to be the same reason.Okay Cameron archer 18 million
Rogers should not be achieving that. @BoroMart said the further up the pitch the bigger the premium. Archers ceiling is higher than Rogers, it certainly was even more so in the summer.
I’d be surprised if we would turn down a 10 million bid
Dave Doriva?Are some really judging his overall Boro career over half a season? Remember a certain Brazilian who became quite a player who had an average first first half of a season, showing only glimpses of what he can do.
We can play hardball too - but we will sell if the price is right, like Brighton did.It isn't though. Brighton do stand in the way when a bigger club comes calling, they literally did exactly that with Caicedo when Chelsea first came calling and wouldn't budge until the Summer window rolled around and Chelsea were forced to cough up £100m. Seems to paint this idea that Brighton just lovingly roll over when a player wants to go when the reality is they negotiate just as hard as any other club. And they made Chelsea pay about £30-40m more than Cucurella should have cost. Brighton's approach isn't "sign a good young player, and then sell him so he can have a nice, lovely career". They play hard ball unless it suits them to sell I.E. Sanchez, and Trossard who De Zerbi didn't want. They're just better at identifying talent and acting quickly before they can be beaten to these players.
"Showcasing" that we can develop players only really matters to clubs looking to loan players out. It only helps actually sign a player if you're the best club trying to sign that player which is to say, it's basically irrelevant. Trying to portray ourselves as a club that will just step aside and let you go as soon as anyone better comes along is the last thing we should
want to do, and we're already soft as f*ck in the transfer market half the time as it is, basically gift wrap everyone we sell where other clubs would, and do, hold out for more.
Honestly 15 million is ridiculous for Rogers. He’s shown potential here, he could be worth that or more if we keep hold of himThe fact he’s 6 months into a 4 year deal comes into play too. We also aren’t just selling him on the player he is today, it’s the potential. We bought him for the potential so the price to sell would have to be the same reason.
I think 15 million makes us sit up and listen anything below that there is no point. He is progressing nicely and can help us achieve our goals this season whilst ultimately driving his value up more.
I wouldn’t sell for that. What’s the point when we could get more for him in the future if he keeps playing and progressing. Just weakening ourselves in the middle of a season. I really don’t see us selling him this January tbh. Villa just trying to cause unrest.Honestly 15 million is ridiculous for Rogers. He’s shown potential here, he could be worth that or more if we keep hold of him
Based on what other players have gone for, bass on our previous sales, I don’t see how boro would knock back 10 million
I’ve always though this forum overstates the value of our players, this thread is proving that again
I do think we could achieved more for both tav and Spence though. If villa offer 10 million this window, imo he will be sold
There is always the balance of what if he doesn’t progress on the trajectory he is on now, what if he does his cruciate. 10 million is a big deal for our club and where we operate now, I don’t think that gets bid and therefore I don’t see us sellingI wouldn’t sell for that. What’s the point when we could get more for him in the future if he keeps playing and progressing. Just weakening ourselves in the middle of a season. I really don’t see us selling him this January tbh. Villa just trying to cause unrest.
Potentially play in a cup final as wellI wouldn’t blame Rogers wanting to go to Villa, but right now it doesn’t make sense. Go there during January and hardly play again all season.
Or, stay at Boro and continue playing in a competitive league every week. If he kicks on and Villa still want him in the summer then fair enough. Good luck to the lad in that scenario.
I think we’ve priced most our players pretty fairly for all parties. In all cases the player wanted to go to a higher league, we’ve needed cash and the contract was running down. Price them out of the market you risk alienating the player, getting nothing when the contract runs out, alienating other clubs and agents you might need to do business with. We got large fees for Spence Tav akpom etc… I don’t think any other championship club has been able to get the kind of money in consistentlyPlayers have all the power. If his head is turned, he won’t be staying here. I’m not sure what evidence we have previously to think we will play hardball. We have history at accepting relatively low bids for our players.
Agree totally, he's made of glass, (maybe that's why Villa sold him)That's the issue with Ramsey though Injuries, he just can't shake them off.
Honestly 15 million is ridiculous for Rogers. He’s shown potential here, he could be worth that or more if we keep hold of him
Based on what other players have gone for, bass on our previous sales, I don’t see how boro would knock back 10 million
I’ve always though this forum overstates the value of our players, this thread is proving that again
I do think we could achieved more for both tav and Spence though. If villa offer 10 million this window, imo he will be sold
IMO they won’t and he’ll still be in a boro shirt in feb lifting the cup