Would you have Gareth Southgate back?

Carrick or Southgate

  • Gareth

    Votes: 5 11.6%

  • Michael

    Votes: 38 88.4%
  • Total voters
    43
BoroMart said:
It's the nature of the job, it's a really really hard job, that takes it's toll on managers, and generally tarnishes them regardless how they do.
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Very good point. Until one wins a tournament I think this will always be the case, no matter how close they get (and Southgate has come mightily close).
 
BoroMart said:
Name me an ex-England manager that walked into a top prem management job when they left....

It's the nature of the job, it's a really really hard job, that takes it's toll on managers, and generally tarnishes them regardless how they do.
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Bobby Robson.. managed Barcelona (not straight after)
 
BoroMart said:
Name me an ex-England manager that walked into a top prem management job when they left....

It's the nature of the job, it's a really really hard job, that takes it's toll on managers, and generally tarnishes them regardless how they do.
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The good managers don't manage international football unless it's towards the ends of their careers. Difference with Southgate is he is still fairly young for a manager and he has never really had a club management career other than one failure with us. His England time hasn't been a failure like some of the other managers we have had so those that went into the England job as a middle of the road manager came out of it in a worse position than they want in. On a career trajectory path you'd think someone that has taken a a team that has achieved nothing for 60 years to semis, finals and quarters would be aiming higher than being Roy Hodgson's replacement at Crystal Palace but that is the sort of position he's going to get. No club with any ambitions of winning anything is going to hire him.
 
With Gibson at the helm I wouldn't be confident in any manager in world football getting us promoted. It could be Carrick, Southgate or Pep in charge but they'd still be hamstrung by Gibsons interfering.
 
newyddion said:
Bobby Robson.. managed Barcelona (not straight after)
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It took him nearly 10 years to get back to the prem, he had to got 3 clubs with a relatively small budget to rebuild his reputation and get that Barcelona job first. His first job was Eindhoven, who were fairly successful in their own country, but it was second rate football and they were a club lacking any financial muscle compared to english sides. SMac had to go to Holland too of course.
 
Normanby_Red said:
he's a championship manager imo and would get found out in the prem. Obviously would never have him over Carrick atm but if Carrick goes I'm sure the club would, and have in the past, interview worse candidates
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there isn't really anything to base that on, he hasn't managed at club level for well over a decade. He'll go abroad somewhere where the fans are a little more cultured about the game rather than 'get it up there', and he'll do very very well.
 
BoroMart said:
there isn't really anything to base that on, he hasn't managed at club level for well over a decade. He'll go abroad somewhere where the fans are a little more cultured about the game rather than 'get it up there', and he'll do very very well.
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Yes I could see him doing better abroad. As said above, England managers' reputations always become tarnished here. Abroad they might just see him as someone who achieved more with England than any of his predecessors.
 
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