Londons_Moggie
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Why do you feel the need to say things like that? People like me? A good honest member of society.
Workers’ rights at risk post Brexit
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SmallTown
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People blindly defending brexit purely be pretending things aren't happening. You've brought destruction on this country and rather than apologise you continue to say its not hairline AS IT IS HAPPENING. I have no time for people who make big mistakes and try and defend them instead of having the courage to admit your mistake. That's why I can it the cult of brexit. It's now just blind faith, ignorant of reality
MolteniArcore
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At least now we can say a mile - I'm sure I read somewhere that the pesky EU were going to enforce we all say kilometre!
Londons_Moggie
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Don’t be so silly
LaPennaBianca
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You're not being very honest here.
SmallTown
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What's incorrect about what I have said?
Londons_Moggie
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As you know me so well how could I possibly argue with you on such matters
Londons_Moggie
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All of it. No disaster has happened. The country is still operating even with a global pandemic. Stop getting so worked up it’s not good for your mental health
Pak_Doo_Ik
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We can moan about it all we want, but do you genuinely believe if the referendum was held again the result would be any different?
The truth is people voted the way they did because they had become desperate as nobody was listening to them from any political party and has that really changed in the intervening years?
The truth is people voted the way they did because they had become desperate as nobody was listening to them from any political party and has that really changed in the intervening years?
jam69
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The result would be different, younger people on the whole don't want it,many who voted for it are sadly no longer with us. it was a fine margin , but another referendum would cause even more division.
Its a mess that we will have to live with.
SmallTown
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You haven’t understood my titanic analogy then.
Ignorance may be bliss to you but some of us live in the real world. We can’t just ignore that problems unfolding. Maybe you’re embarrassed that you support Brexit despit it’s failures but you’re too weak to admit your mistake? Or maybe you’re a sociopath who doesn’t care about the loss of jobs and the economic damage? Neither way reflects well on you
LaPennaBianca
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Well, I can only judge by what you post on here and your conduct is that of someone unwilling to engage in a honest manner and in good faith.
I'm not disparaging your character - I'm criticising a very small aspect of your life: how you post on an internet messageboard for Boro fans trying to avoid work.
newusername
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We've done this before about state pensions, so you should know it by now it is called "Shifting the Overton Window".
The Govt can't come out & reduce the workers rights that would be massively unpopular.
So they drip feed it into the media via leaks, think tank reports, business leaders complaining about lack of productivity & being uncompetitive with EU firms due to 'red tape', workers that are paid peanuts & want to work 60 hours a week so that they've got some money to spend.
Londons_Moggie
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That’s perfectly fine. I have no ill feeling towards you for your stance. It’s your right. But don’t get so personal it doesn’t reflect well on you.
Londons_Moggie
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Well you are disparaging my character absolutely. That’s up to you I can’t stop you doing that but it’s worth remembering that you have never met me and your dislike of me seems purely to come from the fact I voted for Brexit. I also voted for the Labour Party and support Boro, so perhaps my character is not all bad
I think there's a few people being disingenuous on this thread - putting erosion of worker's right solely on Brexit. The two aren't intrinsically linked. The fact we've left the EU doesn't automatically mean we now HAVE to remove workers rights.
Let's be honest - hypothetically supposing Corbyn's Labour or even Swinson's Lib Dems had won the seats to form a government in Dec 2019 does anyone really think they'd be ripping up workers rights? Or if, again hypothetically, it was possible to have an SNP government for the UK that they'd be doing it? Obviously not. This is entirely down to having the party that hate workers in government. Even if we had Starmer's Labour party in government now, there wouldn't be any suggestion that workers rights should erode.
It's this but in reverse. Covering your *rse by putting everything down to the vote you're still happy with and not the vote you regret ST.
Let's be honest - hypothetically supposing Corbyn's Labour or even Swinson's Lib Dems had won the seats to form a government in Dec 2019 does anyone really think they'd be ripping up workers rights? Or if, again hypothetically, it was possible to have an SNP government for the UK that they'd be doing it? Obviously not. This is entirely down to having the party that hate workers in government. Even if we had Starmer's Labour party in government now, there wouldn't be any suggestion that workers rights should erode.
It's this but in reverse. Covering your *rse by putting everything down to the vote you're still happy with and not the vote you regret ST.
Jimstewart
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You certainly could see it a mile off if the Tories got in at the last election. They spent a month going around the country telling anyone who would listen they were going to GET BREXIT DONE. They didn’t say a great deal about anything else really and when they ended up getting elected with a massive majority guess what they did?? And you voted for them. So either put a tin lid on it or continue the wind up but it really is becoming tedious now.
bear66
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The Brexit withdrawal referendum result would have prevented any government from reducing rights.I think there's a few people being disingenuous on this thread - putting erosion of worker's right solely on Brexit. The two aren't intrinsically linked. The fact we've left the EU doesn't automatically mean we now HAVE to remove workers rights.
Let's be honest - hypothetically supposing Corbyn's Labour or even Swinson's Lib Dems had won the seats to form a government in Dec 2019 does anyone really think they'd be ripping up workers rights? Or if, again hypothetically, it was possible to have an SNP government for the UK that they'd be doing it? Obviously not. This is entirely down to having the party that hate workers in government. Even if we had Starmer's Labour party in government now, there wouldn't be any suggestion that workers rights should erode.
It's this but in reverse. Covering your *rse by putting everything down to the vote you're still happy with and not the vote you regret ST.
Maybe so Bear but it's besides my point. Of the 2 parties that could realistically form a government, or of the 6 or so largest parties in the country, there's only 1 that would actively seek to reduce UK workers rights. Whether they were able to due to brexit or restricted from doing so due to remaining in the EU. And it's the one in government.
bear66
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This government clearly wants to reduce rights irrespective of Brexit, but Brexit has directly and indirectly (got them the majority) given them the opportunity.