Wigan decision no later than July 28

If 12 point deduction isn't applied then whoever goes down in Wigans' place will take legal action, the least hassle for the league is to apply the deduction.

Also, what would then stop all clubs clearing their debts by doing it? I'm sure Derby for one would be getting the administrators in straight away.
 
When Charlton equalised on Saturday, i was so relieved that we were safe. Obviously really feel for Wigan but we are my priority.
However since then, im becoming more and more convinced that the appeal will be successful and we are going to get f*****d over. My rational head says this appeal cant be successful as there will be hell on. But this involves Boro and whilst everything is quiet on the deductions front and nothing is yet confirmed, there is still a chance we can go down.
We must go to Hillsborough and ensure we stay up on our own merit. Just as an extra measure ive put the bet on all the results that could send us down as that is the only way to guarantee one of the teams below us doesnt get the result they need.
 
Ayresome82 said:
When Charlton equalised on Saturday, i was so relieved that we were safe. Obviously really feel for Wigan but we are my priority.
However since then, im becoming more and more convinced that the appeal will be successful and we are going to get f*****d over. My rational head says this appeal cant be successful as there will be hell on. But this involves Boro and whilst everything is quiet on the deductions front and nothing is yet confirmed, there is still a chance we can go down.
We must go to Hillsborough and ensure we stay up on our own merit. Just as an extra measure ive put the bet on all the results that could send us down as that is the only way to guarantee one of the teams below us doesnt get the result they need.
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I don’t trust them either.
 
The points deduction was applied at the final whistle last nght.
The appeal date has been set for 31st July so it may be the beginning of August before that is resolved.
What is more concerning is the status of the charges against both Sheff Wed and Derby County meaning next season could start before there is a resolution.
 
BoroFur said:
The points deduction was applied at the final whistle last nght.
The appeal date has been set for 31st July so it may be the beginning of August before that is resolved.
What is more concerning is the status of the charges against both Sheff Wed and Derby County meaning next season could start before there is a resolution.
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The EFL have bottled it. Any "punishment" given to Sheff Wed or Derby will be applied to next season.
 
I'm hoping Steve Gibson and Barnsley don't stop the pressure with regards to Derby, Reading and Sheff Wed.

I know the punishment is effectively out of the EFL's hands now, but they still need to be disciplined.
 
Selling your ground for triple its value to a club owner etc is much worse than going into Administration as it helps a club over many years not just one season.
 
Redwurzel said:
Selling your ground for triple its value to a club owner etc is much worse than going into Administration as it helps a club over many years not just one season.
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Well both just as bad in my book. Going into administration avoids your creditors and can cause supplier businesses to fail. That has consequences for life.
 
Redwurzel said:
Selling your ground for triple its value to a club owner etc is much worse than going into Administration as it helps a club over many years not just one season.
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Significant assets have to be independently valued before a company can sell them to a third party. If a football ground is sold then the value has been set by a property valuer.
 
Soutra said:
Significant assets have to be independently valued before a company can sell them to a third party. If a football ground is sold then the value has been set by a property valuer.
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Ordinarily yes but not in these cases as they are selling to themselves effectively, so can value it themselves, or get a mate to do it, which is why it stinks.
 
Cardiffdaffs said:
Well both just as bad in my book. Going into administration avoids your creditors and can cause supplier businesses to fail. That has consequences for life.
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Administration doesn't avoid your creditors. Administration gives a company protection from action by creditors (typically a winding up order) while it reorganised its business and seeks new finance. At some stage it still has to face its creditors. Often most creditors do better from a company going into administration than from it being wound up - HMRC and banks usually grab everything in a winding up, while smaller creditors get very little. At least after administration smaller companies might get something.
 
El Guapo said:
Ordinarily yes but not in these cases as they are selling to themselves effectively, so can value it themselves, or get a mate to do it, which is why it stinks.
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No, the value of something sold to a related group company still has to be at Fair Market Value.
 
Soutra said:
No, the value of something sold to a related group company still has to be at Fair Market Value.
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So how was Derby’s ground valued in accounts as an asset at £40m and shortly afterwards sold for £81m then? Genuine question, I’m not a RICS qualified valuer or an accountant. Or a lawyer.
 
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