But it won't happen because all these people know better than the experts
Protect them by isolating them indefinitely?[/QUOT
Simply present them with the facts and the risk that virus poses to them. Then treat them like adults and let them exercise their own free will.
We need common sense. Isolate the ill and the elderly. That’s it. I stand up o be corrected but in a the last 24 hours 27 people have been recorded as dying after having a positive test within the last 28 days, That is UK wide out of a population of 66 million. We are miles behind with the treatments and diagnosis of cancers, heart disease and strokes. Unemployment will devastate families causing mental health issues which will lead to depression and suicides. We need to get a grip of ourselves and realise that this virus is a deadly threat to a small portion of our population and do everything in our power to protect them while the rest of us keep the country afloat.
Interesting graphs. I don't believe the deaths though. The arbitrary figure of if you don't die within 28 days of a positive test, then you don't count, is nonsense. Particularly when healthy people are still struggling with their health 6 months after contracting the virus.
Sorry but firstly, 28 is an arbitrary cut off point, designed to manipulate the figures, not give a true reflection of risk. Secondly, the long term effects of those that survive include serious health issues. Thirdly, unchecked 20-30 million will contract CV-19 within 6 months that many people will not have cancer/stroke etc. in a 6 month period.I stand up o be corrected but in a the last 24 hours 27 people have been recorded as dying after having a positive test within the last 28 days, That is UK wide out of a population of 66 million. We are miles behind with the treatments and diagnosis of cancers, heart disease and strokes.
I am sorry to hear about your illness and hope you do recover fully. As to your point I can only point to the statistics which clearly show that the vast majority of serious coronavirus cases occur in the ill and the elderly. I think that is beyond dispute. I have no doubt that otherwise fit and healthy people that have caught the virus are experiencing long Covid and the consequences that go with it. But the lockdown has had and will have grave consequences for many more people that have not had a multitude of life threatening conditions diagnosed and treated over the last six months. My mother was due an endoscopy for throat cancer in early March but it was postponed due to lockdown and didn’t happen until late June. Those three months could have cost her life and there are many thousands like her.for some reason people think if we stop old people and vulnerable from dying then it’s job done.
it’s essential we stop as many infections as possible due to what is becoming known as Long Covid. It effects symptomatic and asymptomatic and doesn’t seem to be bothered by age group. Im starting to realise that after almost 6 months of being discharged from hospital that my chest may never be back to 100%. I have no idea if it’s heart or lungs or both that are effected still. Thousands upon thousands are reporting the same issues. I’ve joined a facebook group of people in the same boat. Not nice to say but it has potentially shortened my life and many others. Thats what is going through my head.
hospital admissions have doubled to 195 in 8 days. ICUs getting busier. Needs nipping in the bud quickly. Compliance required by everyone. Hopefully keep as much open as reasonably possible.
I am sorry to hear about your illness and hope you do recover fully. As to your point I can only point to the statistics which clearly show that the vast majority of serious coronavirus cases occur in the ill and the elderly. I think that is beyond dispute. I have no doubt that otherwise fit and healthy people that have caught the virus are experiencing long Covid and the consequences that go with it. But the lockdown has had and will have grave consequences for many more people that have not had a multitude of life threatening conditions diagnosed and treated over the last six months. My mother was due an endoscopy for throat cancer in early March but it was postponed due to lockdown and didn’t happen until late June. Those three months could have cost her life and there are many thousands like her.
Look at column one in the first list .... the numbers and the trends.
https://assets.publishing.service.g...COVID19_Surveillance_Report_week_38_FINAL.pdf
What it tells you is that if you test more, you find more cases.
Look at the national average for tests per 100,000. If you are lucky, you live in one of those areas that brings the average down to 63.7 per 100,000
It's a joke.
Notice the geographical spread of the authorites that are testing more per 100,000 of population ... and thus finding more cases.
Don’t forget people are unable to get tests which will keep the numbers lower.That link shows nothing of the sort.
Middlesbrough and Bolton have similar test numbers but Boro less than a quarter of positive cases. See also Pendle, Corby, Blaby and Northampton. There is no correlation from that link.
Boro has had lower cases over the last few days, as has Stockton. Hartlepool wasn't looking too good till Wednesday but has had two lower days. Hopefully Teesside is getting over the peak in cases.
I'm hoping that isn't the reason Teesside seems to have turned the corner!Don’t forget people are unable to get tests which will keep the numbers lower.