Viktor Gyökeres

[Marvanelli]

Gyokeres is the key to their game though, this is simple to see and you don't need to be a Coventry fan.

Hamer is excellent, no doubt about that, but if they swapped him out they might lose like 10% of threat, but if they took out Gyokeres their entire system is screwed, they lose like 20% attacking threat and also get screwed defensively as they have to commit more players.

Hamer gets the benefit of Gyokeres being as good as he is, every Cov player does.

Gyokeres is a massive cog in their team, without doubt and take him out, their goals scored would probably reduce.

But Coventry are built on solid foundations and are a team who defend first.

Hamer is huge in the way they set up and play, and because of this, he's their most important player.

Gyokeres and Hamer are their 2 biggest assets and best players, but Hamer is their best for me. No surprise their fans think the same too.

 

[Marvanelli]

I’d swap Chuba for Gyokeres in a heartbeat

I would too, to be honest.

And I love Chuba.

 

[Chappy112]

I’d swap Chuba for Gyokeres in a heartbeat

What do you think he's better at than Chuba?

If I listed all their attributes and looked at what would suit a Carrick side I think the only thing he has over Chuba is strength and possibly work rate. He isn't a better finisher, he's not better in the air, he doesn't have a better first touch, he isn't as quick as Chuba, he isn't as good at linking up play.

Time will tell but he's not even close to being a good Premier League player, I have no doubt someone might take a chance on him but in my opinion he won't succeed at that level.

 

[Andy_W]

Gyokeres is a massive cog in their team, without doubt and take him out, their goals scored would probably reduce.

But Coventry are built on solid foundations and are a team who defend first.

Hamer is huge in the way they set up and play, and because of this, he's their most important player.

Gyokeres and Hamer are their 2 biggest assets and best player, but Hamer is their best for me. No surprise their fans think the same too.

My point is if you take him out you can't just defend, as you would never score a goal. You're basically limited to draws and losses.

Take their fans with a pinch of salt, most only think about a player in isolation, footbally doesn't work like that. 50% of ours didn't think Tav was good enough to even be playing (when he was our best player), as they had zero idea what he was contributing to the overall team.

 

[Marvanelli]

He isn't a better finisher, he's not better in the air, he doesn't have a better first touch, he isn't as quick as Chuba, he isn't as good at linking up play.

He's a better finisher.

He's better in the air.

He has a better first touch.

Not sure on pace, but I bet it's close.

And his link up play is very very good...even look at the chances created this season. He has more assists too I believe?

Gyokeres is better than Chuba, hands down.

And Gyokeres has done it over more than 1 season too.

 

[coluka]

Gyokeres is a massive cog in their team, without doubt and take him out, their goals scored would probably reduce.

But Coventry are built on solid foundations and are a team who defend first.

Hamer is huge in the way they set up and play, and because of this, he's their most important player.

Gyokeres and Hamer are their 2 biggest assets and best players, but Hamer is their best for me. No surprise their fans think the same too.

I see it as Andy does I think. It is a little chicken and egg though and I think you are broadly discussing two halves of the same coin. My view is that Gyokeres receives chases holds onto the diagonal ball to the channel, he can turn his man and has enough pace and strength to beat him more often than not, hence why he attracts 2 sometimes 3 defenders, this creates the space for Hamer to do his thing. I would say Gyokeres is the most important cog, but the truth is they are both key to their team.

I think the tweak in shape they had yesterday unlocked the door and our own mistake thrown into the equation lets not forget. The game was tight, they edged it and I don’t have too many complaints other than the ref being inconsistent in how he went about decisions on professional fouls and his poor handling regards their ‘housery’.

I strongly believe Coventry will comfortably beat Luton at Wembley.

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

He's exactly we hat we want leading our line.

 

[Chappy112]

He's a better finisher.

He's better in the air.

Both of these are statistically very wrong which is no surprise to me at all because it's what my eyes told me.

Fairly sure the pace is statistically hugely in Akpom's favour too but can't find a reputable source to confirm it.

The rest is open to debate.

 

[coluka]

What do you think he's better at than Chuba?

If I listed all their attributes and looked at what would suit a Carrick side I think the only thing he has over Chuba is strength and possibly work rate. He isn't a better finisher, he's not better in the air, he doesn't have a better first touch, he isn't as quick as Chuba, he isn't as good at linking up play.

Time will tell but he's not even close to being a good Premier League player, I have no doubt someone might take a chance on him but in my opinion he won't succeed at that level.

You think Chuba is good in the air? I don’t.

Chuba has done well and is a decent player. I think that is down to his ability to arrive late in the box and get on the end of assists. Take Giles, Ramsey, Archer away from our team and Chuba would not have the supply. Next season may show that dependent on recruitment.

Take most other players away from Coventry’s team and Gyokeres will score goals still. Gyokeres has the attributes to do well in the right team. If he is with Coventry, in the PL, he wont do as well but will score still, if he went to say a mid table or lower team like Crystal Palace, West Ham I think he’d score consistently, far more than Chuba would at either of those. It is all about opinions, and while i respect yours, i very much disagree.

 

[Quicksilvera]

Nowhere near Chuba as a footballer.

Imagine chuba in the 10 and Gyok up top! They are different players I don’t see chuba as a striker anymore he’s a CAM/false 9

 

[TeaCider]

Akpom has scored more headed goals and has a better conversion rate this season, whilst playing as a number 10.

They're not even playing in the same position, so I'm not sure why people are putting down Akpom to praise him.

 

[Uwefuchs]

He was average in the 1-1 and 0-0 games and we kept him very quiet.

I thought he was excellent last night but I'm not sure that he'd be quite as effective in the Premier league. He doesn't look the quickest player to me so I wonder how good he'd be against better defenders.

He's fantastic at this level though.

 

[Chappy112]

You think Chuba is good in the air? I don’t.

Most headed goals in the Championship, 5 more than Gyokeres' 2 so yeah, I reckon he's alright in the air.

Chuba scored more headed goals than 6 teams did all season, including Coventry

 

[coluka]

Akpom has scored more headed goals and has a better conversion rate this season, whilst playing as a number 10.

They're not even playing in the same position, so I'm not sure why people are putting down Akpom to praise him.

I don’t think people are putting down Akpom. As you say, very different players. It would be great to have them both in our team, it won't happen now.
I can’t speak for others, but all i am saying is Akpom is more reliant on supply for his goals whereas Gyokeres can create his own and help create space for others. Chuba may yet be a 1 season wonder, Gyokeres has proved he isn’t. I said if i would swap Gyokeres for Akpom in a heartbeat. The option will never materialise anyhow, so its irrelevant.

 

[Quicksilvera]

You think Chuba is good in the air? I don’t.

The stats don’t agree with you col!

 

[Marvanelli]

so I'm not sure why people are putting down Akpom to praise him

Who's putting down Akpom, to praise Gyokeres?

Don't think anyone has put down Akpom. Or I've not seen anyone do/say it.

 

[Chappy112]

Akpom has scored more headed goals and has a better conversion rate this season, whilst playing as a number 10.

They're not even playing in the same position, so I'm not sure why people are putting down Akpom to praise him.

Akpom outperformed his xG by 6 goals, Gyokeres outperformed his by 1.5 goals. Akpom was a far better finisher this season, it's not even a debate to be honest.

The question is whether Akpom can do it again next season but based on this season it's not even close between the 2 for me.

 

[atypical_boro]

I said last night he plays a very lonely role almost akin to Drogba or John Hartson or something. And he plays it very well.

 

[festa5]

You can take an educated guess of course but truth is noone really knows how well he'd do in the prem till he plays there.

Most players who score regularly in the championship tend to do ok with the step up. Obviously it's a sliding scale but I think he'd be good for at least double figures and not look out of place.

Worth £25m or whatever though? That's a different question. I've no idea.

 

[Chappy112]

Imagine chuba in the 10 and Gyok up top! They are different players I don’t see chuba as a striker anymore he’s a CAM/false 9

No doubt he's good at this level but I honestly wouldn't go near him, I said as much last summer for the price they wanted. We need to be the team buying Gyokeres from Brighton, not paying stupid money for a player that is more than likely the most expensive he will ever be.