Union with David Olusoga

Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
It's amazing how little Irish history is taught in schools, it's not that long since we were one country.
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But that goes both ways though as Ireland have done all they can to erase that as well at their end . So as I say learning history can be a good and bad thing if not in the right context.
 
Otto42 said:
Interesting point, especially when you look at some English people who still hark on about Germany and/or France dominating Europe!
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That’s another interesting point. There’s a reason Britain is almost obsessed with WW2. It’s easy to make Britain the good guy, which feeds into British exceptionalism.

The case for being the good guy is almost impossible in any other war or conflict, apart from Kosovo.
 
Does that include Ireland fuelling u boats then and openly supporting hitler’s attack on Britain through delavera etc or is it just the English as the bad guys angle.

Like I say history goes both ways.
 
Jedi boro said:
Yes there’s a reason for that though.

Or are you arguing that we were the bad guy ???
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No. Making the point WW2 feeds into British exceptionalism. Britain was undoubtedly good during that war. Nazi Germany had to be beaten for the good of humanity.
 
He is a mischievous fellow - Black and British book being a case in point, perpetuating myths about Hadrian's Wall and Beachy head woman. History is too important to be idealised in this fashion.
 
SNOWBANDIT said:
He is a mischievous fellow - Black and British book being a case in point, perpetuating myths about Hadrian's Wall and Beachy head woman. History is too important to be idealised in this fashion.
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I think he targets his shows as well they are interesting but there clears a subtext to it.
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
Responding to your ridiculous good guy/ bad guy references.

As a country we're neither, we've carried out rights and wrongs, tried to help with justices and carried out injustices. Most nations are the same
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I didn’t say that

I’m saying in this instance (unlike WW1 that was a lot more nuanced) we as a nation faced a threat the likes of which the world had prob never seen since the Romans ( maybe napoleon) and he needed stopping. Of course it wasn’t perfect but it’s a damn sight better than the nazi death cult that we were up against.

So yes I think it’s fair to say in that instance we were in the side of good
 
Jedi boro said:
I didn’t say that

I’m saying in this instance (unlike WW1 that was a lot more nuanced) we as a nation faced a threat the likes of which the world had prob never seen since the Romans ( maybe napoleon) and he needed stopping. Of course it wasn’t perfect but it’s a damn sight better than the nazi death cult that we were up against.

So yes I think it’s fair to say in that instance we were in the side of good
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Can't argue, and in that instance it stopped being relevant in 1945 when the conflict ceased.
 
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