UK exports to European Union drop 40% in January

[BoroMart]

Good old liz truss

Labour suggests ministers failed to do analysis of Brexit deal

Emily Thornberry says lack of economic impact assessment ‘makes no sense whatsoever’

www.theguardian.com

This is either shocking neglect or corruption. I've mentioned this before, about 2 or 3 years ago, this is a transformation programme, not just a project. The aim (for brexiteers) is to deliver benefit to the country, not just a piece of paper that says, you are no longer in the EU.

The vision and goals should be understood and documented for all transformation project and the potential impact and benefits must be defined, qualified, quantified and recorded so that we know what success looks like. This is Programme Management 101. A business Case for the transformation MUST exist right at the beginning and be adjusted as new external factors, opportunities and constraints emerge, this would include the assessment of risk as well as expected benefits. To fail to do this is a failure of management and governance of the highest order.

I said that prior to the vote, a business case existed somewhere, someone had an idea how this could make profit and benefit someone, if it wasn't made public, which it wasn't, then it wasn't the public that would benefit. I stand by that, the fact that Boris's deal doesn't have a publicly available assessment of the risks and benefits is either gross incompetence or gross corruption by using public office for personal benefit. The very evidence of this document not being available is shocking in itself.

 

[Adi_Dem]

I read that exports were actually down by closer to 70% in the first 2 months of the year, imports were effected slightly less at about 35% down due to our wave em through policy.

On the subject of Adi and ST's responses, give it a rest fella's. Frankly it's boring.

In a word: no. I realise that those who voted leave are being made to feel uncomfortable but tough ****. Own it.

 

[Laughing]

This is either shocking neglect or corruption. I've mentioned this before, about 2 or 3 years ago, this is a transformation programme, not just a project. The vision and goals should be understood and documented for any transformation project and the potential impact and benefits must be defined, qualified, quantified and recorded so that we know what success looks like. This is Programme Management 101. A business Case for the transformation MUST exist right at the beginning and be adjusted as new external factors, opportunities and constraints emerge.

I said that prior to the vote, a business case existed somewhere, someone had an idea how this could make profit and benefit someone, if it wasn't made public, which it wasn't, then it wasn't the public that would benefit. I stand by that, the fact that Boris's deal doesn't have a publicly available assessment of the risks and benefits is either gross incompetence or gross corruption by using public office for personal benefit. The very evidence of this document not being available is shocking in itself.

For Johnson it was a power grab, for some in the ERG it was an enrichment programme. The economy, generally, would have been a long way down the priorities, and Johnson probably wouldn't understand the implications for the economy, I am not convinced he is very intelligent.

We will end up back in the customs union. By the end of the year the trade restrictions will have impacted on us all. It really hasn't been very well managed and leaving was the only goal for Johnson. He legislates to the end of the day and not beyond.

 

[SmallTown]

I read that exports were actually down by closer to 70% in the first 2 months of the year, imports were effected slightly less at about 35% down due to our wave em through policy.

On the subject of Adi and ST's responses, give it a rest fella's. Frankly it's boring.

No. Whilst my country is going down the toilet and people are still justify their decision to support this disaster I won’t give it a rest. I’m angry because people don’t understand what’s going on or are destroying the country without caring

 

[BoroMart]

For Johnson it was a power grab, for some in the ERG it was an enrichment programme. The economy, generally, would have been a long way down the priorities, and Johnson probably wouldn't understand the implications for the economy, I am not convinced he is very intelligent.

We will end up back in the customs union. By the end of the year the trade restrictions will have impacted on us all. It really hasn't been very well managed and leaving was the only goal for Johnson. He legislates to the end of the day and not beyond.

I agree, although I would go so far as to say, it has been wilfully and neglectfully managed, to cover corruption.

 

[Laughing]

In a word: no. I realise that those who voted leave are being made to feel uncomfortable but tough ****. Own it.

I don't feel uncomfortable at all adi and someones ballot paper is none of your business, neither is their reasons for voting to leave. None of your business. Smack your head against a brick wall all day, if it makes you feel better, but I would suggest it isn't working.

Fo all leavers stubborness you and ST are matching them every step of the way.

 

[HundredRoom]

In a word: no. I realise that those who voted leave are being made to feel uncomfortable but tough ****. Own it.

No. Whilst my country is going down the toilet and people are still justify their decision to support this disaster I won’t give it a rest. I’m angry because people don’t understand what’s going on or are destroying the country without caring

Whats going on then ST ?. Apart from the vaccination success which definitely would not exist if we were bundled in with the EU (non) decision makers.

 

[Redwurzel]

There seems to a lot of non tariff barriers erected for UK based goods that were not there before such as vet certificates. This has badly hit fresh food exports. We do not seem to do the same to EU imports into the UK. Although by VALUE imports are down more than exports to the EU. If some EU countries continue to trate UK exports differently to say New Zealand or Swiss exports to their countries they will face legal actions.

I would add the EU countries are suffering badly from Covid - in January there was little vaccinating going on. This has produced massive lock downs there that were not there last January.

I would add long queues in early January to get from the Channel Ports to France, Holland and Belgium.

There was large stock piling of goods in anticipation of potential problems on Jan 1.

There had been a strengthening of the £ against the Euro making UK exports more expensive.

It will take several years to see accurate trends, just when we joined the EU it took several years to have significant impact.

 

[Laughing]

I agree, although I would go so far as to say, it has been wilfully and neglectfully managed, to cover corruption.

I think covid has been managed in the way it has for corrupt ends, not sure about Johnson and brexit to be honest. I am not suggesting it was an honest mistake, it was a wilful grab of power on Johnsons part. Just not entirely sure it was corrupt in the legal sense, manipulative, absoloutely.

 

[BoroMart]

I think covid has been managed in the way it has for corrupt ends, not sure about Johnson and brexit to be honest. I am not suggesting it was an honest mistake, it was a wilful grab of power on Johnsons part. Just not entirely sure it was corrupt in the legal sense, manipulative, absoloutely.

Oh I don't believe Johnson's power grab was corrupt, but I think the ERGs use of public funds under pretences is. They are public servants, they haven't served the public but themselves.

 

[BoroMart]

Whats going on then ST ?. Apart from the vaccination success which definitely would not exist if we were bundled in with the EU (non) decision makers.

Lets be honest though, the 'vaccine success' wasn't a benefit of brexit that anyone accounted for before the vote. It is a 'happy accident' at best. we also have the worst per capita death rate and the worst performing economy of all the current EU countries so there's that to factor in too.

 

[HundredRoom]

I don't feel uncomfortable at all adi and someones ballot paper is none of your business, neither is their reasons for voting to leave. None of your business. Smack your head against a brick wall all day, if it makes you feel better, but I would suggest it isn't working.

Fo all leavers stubborness you and ST are matching them every step of the way.

Adi_Dem stated proudly for many months that he/she would not accept the result of a re-run referendum unless the result was to remain. Just like the liberal party. That stance is so contemptuous of the electorate its one of main reasons we are where we are

 

[Adi_Dem]

I don't feel uncomfortable at all adi and someones ballot paper is none of your business, neither is their reasons for voting to leave. None of your business. Smack your head against a brick wall all day, if it makes you feel better, but I would suggest it isn't working.

Fo all leavers stubborness you and ST are matching them every step of the way.

Frankly, I don’t care what you would suggest. It is not stubbornness to point out the damage that is clearly evident day in, day out in the face of denial. It doesn’t make me feel any better. In truth I’m shielded to a large extent from the damage that Brexit is doing. I could stay silent and my life wouldn’t change too much. I don’t because of idiots that continue to defend the indefensible. And I disagree. The reasons people voted for this clusterfuck and made this choice for my kids is squarely my business. I understand completely why you’d want to hide behind the anonymity of the ballot box and be very reluctant to have any ‘reasons’ for a leave vote exposed for what they are but it doesn’t mean I’ll play ball. You have every right to ignore me but you have no right to tell me to be silent.

Whats going on then ST ?. Apart from the vaccination success which definitely would not exist if we were bundled in with the EU (non) decision makers.

This is demonstrably a load of old b***ks. Our vaccination programme commenced whilst we were still subject to EU rules. Utter utter nonsense. Just like everything else ascribed a Brexit benefit.

 

[Adi_Dem]

Adi_Dem stated proudly for many months that he/she would not accept the result of a re-run referendum unless the result was to remain. Just like the liberal party. That stance is so contemptuous of the electorate its one of main reasons we are where we are

Except that I didn’t. Lies are all you have though. I understand.

 

[Adi_Dem]

Why don't you do one adi you obnoxious little twerp

And then the personal abuse comes. Absolutely standard. Well done you.

 

[HundredRoom]

Lets be honest though, the 'vaccine success' wasn't a benefit of brexit that anyone accounted for before the vote. It is a 'happy accident' at best. we also have the worst per capita death rate and the worst performing economy of all the current EU countries so there's that to factor in too.

The death rate is not correlated to the number of vaccines delivered - there is a lag. We will soon be massively ahead on that one.
How comfortable are the Italians right now , while waiting for Brussels to decide how many vaccines they can have

Worst performing economy ? You got the data for that ?

I would argue the vaccine roll out success is a direct result of not letting Brussels dithering and mis-management

 

[SmallTown]

I don't feel uncomfortable at all adi and someones ballot paper is none of your business, neither is their reasons for voting to leave. None of your business. Smack your head against a brick wall all day, if it makes you feel better, but I would suggest it isn't working.

Fo all leavers stubborness you and ST are matching them every step of the way.

Maybe so, but we are only posting true fact stories about failures in Brexit. The big difference is the brexiteers are sticking by their mistake with no reason why

 

[Laughing]

And then the personal abuse comes. Absolutely standard. Well done you.

Every sentence from your keyboard is personal so don't be trying that tactic Adi, not interested in listening to you rage against anyone to be honest, have a good day and enjoy the match.

 

[HundredRoom]

Except that I didn’t. Lies are all you have though. I understand.

You posted that line continuously ad nauseum.
You want me to drag out the posts.? Normally I wouldn't bother but as you have called me a liar I will. After the game.

Ok heres another chance for you . If a new referendum were called tomorrow and the result was leave would you accept it ?

 

[Adi_Dem]

Every sentence from your keyboard is personal so don't be trying that tactic Adi, not interested in listening to you rage against anyone to be honest, have a good day and enjoy the match.

It should be very obvious then in this thread where I made it personal. Please point me to anything that equates to your ‘little twerp’ comment. I’ll wait.

You posted that line continuously ad nauseum.
You want me to drag out the posts.? Normally I wouldn't bother but as you have called me a liar I will. After the game.

Ok heres another chance for you . If a new referendum were called tomorrow and the result was leave would you accept it ?

Yes please. Link them for me. I have never once posted that the only referendum result I’d accept is one to remain. So I’ll wait for that too.

As I’ve said countless times, if the referendum was absent fraud, absent data protection breaches then yes I would of course accept it. I’ve accepted this referendum result despite it not having those characteristics. None of my posts here are about accepting the results of the referendum. They are pointing out the stupidity and obvious consequences of a decision in the face of posters ridiculously claiming that everything is ‘running smoothly’.