Trump ruled ineligible to run for President

Jedi boro said:
The key now is to see what other states follow suit as the precedent has been set and if others do follow the GOP might get nervous. Even if does go to SCOTUS it’s not a good look to be fighting in court esp when the evidence is so damning.

Well done Colorado.
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Already failed in 3 other states.
This will be overturned by US Supreme Court
 
Judge J Michael Luttig, Republican constitutional lawyer and the man who Pence consulted over the plot to overturn the electors, has said the ruling is a masterful piece of constitutional law and should be upheld as it is not a political ruling.
He has said it's not certain it won't be overturned, but it is correct in his opinion.
What people seem to forget is that the judges on the Supreme Court are already under scrutiny over who their backers are and it wouldn't be inconceivable for their conservative backers to see this as a chance to rid themselves of Trump and his ability to lose elections. Just look at who is backing Nicki Haley and how she's emerging as Trump's biggest foe in the primaries. She's a much less controversial conservative pick who would have more chance of furthering the real conservative agenda which has been neigh on impossible under the cult of Trump. Having the Supreme Court uphold this ruling would wipe Trump from the board and serve to do the dirty work that moderate Republicans have been terrified to do because they know they would be primaried simply for standing up to Trump.
 
Juninhoburger said:
Yeah, i'm not sure it will be actually.
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As I said on another thread I’m sure it will. Section 3 of the 14th Amendment doesn’t specify the President and ‘insurrectionists’ implies active participation. In any event it only prevents him standing in Colorado‘s Republican primary.
 
So where does this leave America?

I can't see Biden lasting another 5 years as president and it's a very divided country.

Trump supporters will feel they've been robbed of something
 
Gramsci said:
As I said on another thread I’m sure it will. Section 3 of the 14th Amendment doesn’t specify the President and ‘insurrectionists’ implies active participation. In any event it only prevents him standing in Colorado‘s Republican primary.
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As the justices on the Colorado Supreme Court pointed out, section 3 of the 14th amendment covers the holder of "any office, civil or military, under the United States" who has sworn an oath to uphold the constitution and the idea that it would apply to for instance, a local sheriff and not to the President is absurd.

Also, the ruling was based in part on a lower court ruling that had already held, as a matter of established fact, supported by evidence and witness statements, that Trump had indeed "engaged in insurrection."
 
For those worried about wether the president is included or that the Supreme Court will throw it out then I'd point you to the video below where a section of the Colorado ruling is discussed concerning the presidency being included.
In addition, the Supreme Court places a lot of emphasis on originalism and the conversation by the framers included in the Colorado ruling kind of paints the Scotus into a corner.


In addition, they quote Scotus Judge Gorsich's own words in their ruling which further adds to the problems that the Scotus will have if they decide to break with their modus operandi. They'll literally have to tie themselves in knots to overturn the ruling and go against their nature to take power away from the state. Giving power back to the states was the key to overturning Roe Vs Wade after all and as that is very fresh in the memory of voters then overruling the Colorado judgement would open all sorts of challenges to the repeal of Roe.

All in all, it's a very clever thing that Colorado have done.

https://youtu.be/A1Ze5qIYyuY?si=k1i3Xhf1Jpx7GTqC
 
I’m just waiting for a republican state to do the same with Biden. Maybe states don’t need a reason to exclude a candidate similar to other employment rules in the US where an employer doesn’t need a reason to fire an employee.
 
Expat Smoggie said:
I’m just waiting for a republican state to do the same with Biden. Maybe states don’t need a reason to exclude a candidate similar to other employment rules in the US where an employer doesn’t need a reason to fire an employee.
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They can’t though as Biden is already in post trump is at present still a nominee. It’s the ballot to vote him as a candidate he’s blocked from not from the election.
 
Juninhoburger said:
It was Republican voters that filed the lawsuit in the first place.

www.cbsnews.com

Watchdog group files suit seeking to keep Trump off Colorado ballot under 14th Amendment

A group of voters in Colorado argue that Trump is disqualified from holding public office under a rarely used provision of the 14th Amendment.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
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Some Republicans dislike OMB - no news there - though one imagines in this case the court is politically aligned Democrat. For the record, I don't think the Judiciary should have any affiliations, but can see how this can be difficult - was probably less so in the past.
 
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