they have indeed opened a can of worms on themselves there.J found it shocking youtube stopped brand from making money from his channel. Could understand if he was proven guilty
He was awarded damages from several tabloids.Barry George never got anything. The lead investigator in that case still is certain it was him.
Ah right. But he wasn’t awarded damages from the government because he didn’t reach the threshold. So it doesn’t mean he is innocent, just not guilty beyond reasonable doubt.He was awarded damages from several tabloids.
I'm not here to defend nor condemn Brand. I've never been a massive fan of his but I am extremely uncomfortable how this has come about and how people have decided - without due process - that he is a rapist. We have one of the the least trusted media in Europe and it is not for C4 Dispatches to decide who is innocent or guilty and yet there are people all over social media who have assumed that he is.I understand your point, but Brand has had a 4 year investigation by supposedly respectable journalists leading up to the documentary allegations being aired,
I'm not sure if that counts for much really.Barry George never got anything. The lead investigator in that case still is certain it was him.
Nobody has concluded he is a rapist, that is for the police and courts to process if ever a complaint has been made to them. The documentary team investigated and have found several women who claim he has abused them in some way and at least one has claimed she was raped by him. He has claimed everything was consensual, the 2 views can unfortunately be compatable in their respective heads, only a court could test the evidence within the law as we know.I'm not here to defend nor condemn Brand. I've never been a massive fan of his but I am extremely uncomfortable how this has come about and how people have decided - without due process - that he is a rapist. We have one of the the least trusted media in Europe and it is not for C4 Dispatches to decide who is innocent or guilty and yet there are people all over social media who have assumed that he is.
One of the respectable journalists on the case was also on this case where a completely innocent person had her business, her health and the health of her child destroyed just because.
He has also written for the right wing press that are hanging him out to dry and add the fascist Daily Mail to your listBrand, like Saville has made millions of pounds using his lecherous personality and behaviour, for all to see and encouraged by the BBC, Channel 4 etc because this also made them money. Hiding in plain sight.
His already huge ego is massaged by them and his behaviour knows no bounds because he is allowed to be what he wants to be. He said himself he is a sex addict and here he finds the perfect position for this - and he gets paid as well for just being himself.
The whole affair is seedy. It highlights succinctly the kind of society we have become when we put people like Brand on a pedestal. Morally corrupt in so many ways and now the chickens have finally come home to roost.
Can anyone really be surprised by all this?
They have though. It's all over social media.Nobody has concluded he is a rapist
I am old school. I believe if you disrespect people like this, which in effect was bullying, you should pay the consequences. It is clear that Brand and Ross were not going to change their behaviours.
By concluded, you are meaning people in their own heads, I get that, and as my last post alluded to, he is in an insidious position, however, it is one of his own making by his past actions, his past behaviour in public, his act, his past words and his past life choices his whole persona he chose to put out there. He clearly used his fame like lots of others have to attract partners, he openly admitted it. However, with that power should come great self control. Only the people involved and those present at the time know for sure. There will be others looking over shoulders too, no doubt. 4 years of investigation produced 4 claims with an additional one since. He is in a privileged position and can challenge it all if it is a pack of lies and if it is, it is awful, but if it isn’t, or indeed if only one of the claims had truth, then wow. However rape cases rarely get convictions even when brought to the police and courts sadly for some women. Women get a raw deal (and some men too I know). If people are doing it for money, 15 minutes of fame, or indeed for justice it will hopefully play out the right way within the law one way or another.They have though. It's all over social media.
They have though. It's all over social media.
Probably. He is still very lucky to have kept his job at a ridiculous salary considering what he did. It was despicable and something I hope he regretted afterwards,I think Ross has changed hasn’t he?
Flip side of that of course is that rich people buy their own innocence with expensive lawyers.What happened to innocent until proven guilty?