Tommy Conway

Canyoudigit said:
If he signs I think he'd bring a lot to the squad and if he doesn't then he wouldn't have been a regular starter and don't want him anyway!
In all seriousness why do some people seem to think Burnley are like Real Madrid and we can't possibly compete with them ?
It's not that long ago they were about the same size club as jossy's giants,OK they've got parachute payments but they've got a whopping wage bill,a losing mentality and a massively overrated manager.
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I’m not sure it’s that but we’ve been down that road with players before. You make valid points but do the majority of players see it like that?

Whether you like it or not, they’ve still spent more time in the PL than us in recent seasons and will have a higher wage structure than ours due to PL money.

It all depends on the players motivation. If I’m a player with a choice, I’m choosing Boro all day long but I may be a little biased!

I don’t think it’s a forgone conclusion but if Burnley sweeten the deal with a Twine swap it’ll give them the edge from a negotiation standpoint, especially as they aren’t happy with the structure of our deal at the moment.

We’ve had a few of these in recent seasons where transfers have been hijacked and we’ve missed out and I think that’s where people expect us to lose out, due to recent history.

It’s not one I’ll be overly upset about. I think he’d be a great addition but if it doesn’t happen then we move onto the next target.
 
It's not the end of the world. I'm sure we have various targets. You certainly wouldn't want to pay the earth for him just because Burnley have offered him more.

I'm sure his agent and club will be throwing others clubs into the mix. I'm sure we will have been chatting to him for a few days or even weeks. It won't have just started since the news broke. So we could be ahead of the game.

Tom Cannon is an interesting one. I'm sure if we genuinely wanted him then he will be very much on our radar. I doubt he will get a kick at Leicester. I'd say he's a possible loan option entering the final few days of the window.
 
On The Bob said:
We’ve had a few of these in recent seasons where transfers have been hijacked and we’ve missed out and I think that’s where people expect us to lose out, due to recent history.
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We've also done our fair share of hijacking other teams deals, every club does it.

Steve Bruce confessed in an interview how West Brom were going to sign Matt Clarke after he was on loan there for the season - Boro came in last minute.

Riley McGree nearly joined Celtic before we hijacked that deal too - rumour was he even flew into Glasgow airport for a medical.
 
Ash88 said:
We've also done our fair share of hijacking other teams deals, every club does it.

Steve Bruce confessed in an interview how West Brom were going to sign Matt Clarke after he was on loan there for the season - Boro came in last minute.

Riley McGree nearly joined Celtic before we hijacked that deal too - rumour was he even flew into Glasgow airport for a medical.
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That’s not hijacking. That’s rescuing.
 
On The Bob said:
We’ve had a few of these in recent seasons where transfers have been hijacked and we’ve missed out and I think that’s where people expect us to lose out, due to recent history.
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I think there can be a naive belief that we could do deals quickly and quietly so that other clubs don't become aware of our interest.

Agents and selling clubs will never let that happen. The media is desperate for any leak, and agents and sellers will always leak prospective deals to try and bump up prices and wages.

We've hijacked deals as has been pointed out. No doubt we also leak interest in our players to drive up prices.
 
Ash88 said:
We've also done our fair share of hijacking other teams deals, every club does it.

Steve Bruce confessed in an interview how West Brom were going to sign Matt Clarke after he was on loan there for the season - Boro came in last minute.

Riley McGree nearly joined Celtic before we hijacked that deal too - rumour was he even flew into Glasgow airport for a medical.
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Yeah, didn’t mean it in a negative way towards other clubs. It’s a free market and only natural. Like you say, we’ve also done it in recent times - that’s the way it goes.

We’ve been on the losing end of a few deals in the last year which is what people will remember.
 
DF was poached at Manchester Airport wasn't he?

If there has been direct flights from Rio to Teesside he would have been a Boro player.

I seem to think he was never a regular at MU and ended up at Villareal.
 
Redwurzel said:
DF was poached at Manchester Airport wasn't he?

If there has been direct flights from Rio to Teesside he would have been a Boro player.

I seem to think he was never a regular at MU and ended up at Villareal.
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I thought it was Heathrow but yes it was at the airport and correct he was never really a regular for Man Utd. I’m sure he only like 2 goals in his first 18 months or something ridiculous like that. it was when he went to Spain his career got back on track and hit the highs.
 
MickaelDebevePhenomenal said:
The Twine situation complicates matters for us and tips the favour strongly in Burnley's favour. It's been strongly rumoured down there for months that Twine to City is a done deal.
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According to Ron Walker of Sky Sports
A prospective deal between Bristol City and Burnley for Scott Twine is ‘unlikely’ to hinge on a swap involving Tommy Conway.
Other clubs, notably Middlesbrough, have more of an interest in Conway than Burnley.
 
Redwurzel said:
DF was poached at Manchester Airport wasn't he?

If there has been direct flights from Rio to Teesside he would have been a Boro player.

I seem to think he was never a regular at MU and ended up at Villareal.
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He flew from Gatwick to Newcastle Airport and planned to join Boro - he quoted before flying from Argentina "I'm going to Middlesbrough".

But his Argentina club had also said something like "If Manchester offer him more money, then he will go to Manchester" - which I'm guessing is what happened.
 
If the club don’t sign Conway then… well that would be two summers in a row where we’ve not been able to sign the striker(s) we want. It’s an open secret we wanted two last summer and only got one. We didn’t get one in January - did we even try for one, really? - and now there’s talk of this deal falling through as well. Just like Cannon(as said above).

There’s a lot to like about Boro’s last 2-3 years in the transfer market but if we go into the season with only Latte Lath and Coburn again we are very unlikely to trouble the top two. The whole point is to push for those places. I know it’s very hard but that has to be the aim. If we miss out on another striker we clearly both want and need, having had over a year to identify that player or players and get the deals done, I think that would be very poor tbh. Carrick would be hamstrung from the outset.
 
In a financial and playing time perspective, Burnley is a better fit for him. Do still want us to get him mind, but if it comes down to us or them, I think they will get the nod.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
If the club don’t sign Conway then… well that would be two summers in a row where we’ve not been able to sign the striker(s) we want. It’s an open secret we wanted two last summer and only got one. We didn’t get one in January - did we even try for one, really? - and now there’s talk of this deal falling through as well. Just like Cannon(as said above).

There’s a lot to like about Boro’s last 2-3 years in the transfer market but if we go into the season with only Latte Lath and Coburn again we are very unlikely to trouble the top two. The whole point is to push for those places. I know it’s very hard but that has to be the aim. If we miss out on another striker we clearly both want and need, having had over a year to identify that player or players and get the deals done, I think that would be very poor tbh. Carrick would be hamstrung from the outset.
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It felt like we gave up In January, strange really
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
If the club don’t sign Conway then… well that would be two summers in a row where we’ve not been able to sign the striker(s) we want. It’s an open secret we wanted two last summer and only got one. We didn’t get one in January - did we even try for one, really? - and now there’s talk of this deal falling through as well. Just like Cannon(as said above).

There’s a lot to like about Boro’s last 2-3 years in the transfer market but if we go into the season with only Latte Lath and Coburn again we are very unlikely to trouble the top two. The whole point is to push for those places. I know it’s very hard but that has to be the aim. If we miss out on another striker we clearly both want and need, having had over a year to identify that player or players and get the deals done, I think that would be very poor tbh. Carrick would be hamstrung from the outset.
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I think the January situation is slightly different though. By the time we got to January we were ravaged with injuries, a fair bit from the play offs and would have had to pay a January premium for a permanent striker.

I would have liked to have seen us bring someone on loan, but given the league situation, it felt like we decided to keep the powder dry and do the best with what we had. I imagine Conway has been on the radar for a while, given his contract situation and the likes of Scott etc. will have feelers out there for players with agents etc.

If Sky are right and Burnley’s interest isn’t all that great (they don’t seem desperate for a striker either) then the situation is back to where we were at the start of the day.

I’m sure if Conway doesn’t come then we will have another potential target lined up.

Every chance that we buy Conway, they use the money to buy Twine.

I’m done with the speculation now. Happy to see how it pans out.
 
Middlesbrough123 said:
It felt like we gave up In January, strange really
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I think we made a percentage play.

I don't think the team gave up: they went out and tried to win every game, and got surprisingly close to the playoffs in the end.

But scraping into the playoffs isn't that much use. 6th place has virtually no chance of promotion these days, and 5th not much more. In the unlikely scenario that we scraped in, it was even less likely that we'd go up.

I didn't see much chance of going up, and I think this Summer has benefitted from our approach then. Last year, Chuba funded our shopping. This year we've lost no one of note, and still seems to have some money to spend. That's because of January.
 
Middlesbrough123 said:
It felt like we gave up In January, strange really
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It wasn’t strange though was it. We could have done a Hull, blew our budget on players who weren’t much better than what we had and ended up in a position no better than we ended up.

Yes, difficult pill to swallow at the time but we chose a longer term strategy. Once injuries came back towards the end of the season, we were a different side with an injection of confidence.

Even if we had have reached the play offs, it would have been a difficult one to win given the sides that were in there. It was a gamble the club weren’t willing to take.

If this season goes to plan, it’ll prove to be the correct decision. Although as said above, a loan for a striker should have been brought in to bridge the gap like we did with Thomas for Banguras injury.
 
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