Randy
Well-known member
What point are you trying to make?That was exactly my point.
80% might not be as good as 100%, but it's better than 0%.
There are thousands on 0% who would love your 80%.
What point are you trying to make?That was exactly my point.
80% might not be as good as 100%, but it's better than 0%.
There are thousands on 0% who would love your 80%.
That 80% is more than 0%, and 70% is more than 0%.What point are you trying to make?
So your saying it's acceptable for Tomahawk to ask their employees for a loan or you don't have an issue with the idea because 70% is better than 0%?That 80% is more than 0%, and 70% is more than 0%.
Have they been expanding during lockdown?
www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/teesside-restaurant-chain-opens-new-19385241.amp
www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/tomahawk-steakhouse-opening-york-champagne-18647176.amp
www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/popular-steakhouse-chain-tomahawk-take-18884940.amp
www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/new-jobs-offer-latest-restaurant-18970807.amp
Nah, I just realise we've already hit the iceberg and half the ship is underwater.Think AndyW is trying to make a case for what's known as a race to the bottom.
If you hang on theyâll have a sympathetic article leading with quotes from the Tomahawk bosses tomorrow.Strange it's made the front page of bbc's news website, not the Gazette through...
If you hang on theyâll have a sympathetic article leading with quotes from the Tomahawk bosses tomorrow.
You would think they will have to report it. Northern Echo did so this afternoon and it's also in the Guardian and other publications. If/when they report it, they might just shut down the comments section on their site and Facebook. It will be interesting to see.It does seem to look like some sort of interest is behind the non-reporting. I'm quite shocked (and/or naive).
Looking at the all restaurants theyâve been opening they canât be too brassic can they!"rainy day"? They've been pretty much shut for about 6 months of the last year, and probably on 50% takings the other 6 months, and shut for the next however long, that's a lot of rainy days.
Most startup businesses have to spread thin, they lose masses of money the first few years (some up to 10 years), which is expected, you have to do this to get started in the vast majority of cases. This mass expense would be part of the business model, plus allowing some extra I expect, but they've probably exceeded this by 1000%.
Staff losing 20% is a big deal, but they didn't have to stay on furlough, they could have quit and tried to get another job. The reason they have not done this is there were no other jobs to get, or they were happy at home on 80%.
It's probably more along the lines of we're pretty desperate, we need some help, but if you can't there's probably 1000 others who will. It's brutal, but business is, especially when you could be going to the wall.
Look, it's not ideal, but we're in a pandemic FFS, if staff think they can have half a year sat on 80% pay at home, and that's going to be the worst of it then they need to wake up, it could be 1000% worse, and likely will for the directors with their "rangerovers".
You would think they will have to report it. Northern Echo did so this afternoon and it's also in the Guardian and other publications. If/when they report it, they might just shut down the comments section on their site and Facebook. It will be interesting to see.
With regards to the Tomahawk statement. They say it's been a challenging year, yet they're expanding as they like and are not shy about letting everybody know about it, amongst other things.
Looking at the all restaurants theyâve been opening they canât be too brassic can they!
99% of hospitality venues thought âwe need money and fast....weâll do takeaways diversify if we have to, think outside the box to try and see this throughâ.
Tomohawk on the other hand.....âLetâs open more restaurants (even though the ones we have are closed) in the most expensive places we can find and if it goes t*ts up weâll ask our low paid staff for a loan or they can fcuk offâ!
You clearly have the same attitude towards employees as the other chunt.
Total nonsense. The expansion has been taking place involving premises that have become vacant during the pandemic. The owner is on record saying he was looking for somewhere in London during the first lockdown.The terms of the expansion could vary enormously from venue to venue. Some deals could have been entered into a long time ago and a rent free period agreed. During what was thought to be a relatively short lockdown, proceeding with fitting out is not a stupid decision, nor is announcing the opening of a new restaurant as a lockdown is lifted.
We just donât know the details, but we do know the staff were asked to loan wages rather than a straight pay cut, so it suggests the company intend paying staff their dues in time and that they see it as a matter of time before they bounce back strong as long as they can reach reopening.
In my experience, when times get rough, directors tend to put staff before themselves for as long as they can.
Looking at the all restaurants theyâve been opening they canât be too brassic can they!
99% of hospitality venues thought âwe need money and fast....weâll do takeaways diversify if we have to, think outside the box to try and see this throughâ.
Tomohawk on the other hand.....âLetâs open more restaurants (even though the ones we have are closed) in the most expensive places we can find and if it goes t*ts up weâll ask our low paid staff for a loan or they can fcuk offâ!
You clearly have the same attitude towards employees as the other chunt.
So what did suitability for the role to be reviewed mean?I see they've finally put out a statement:
In response to the article the BBC ran today about Tomahawk, we issue the following:
âAt no point has Tomahawk Steakhouse ever suggested that members of staff would be sacked if they did not sign a loan agreement.
âLike the rest of the hospitality industry, we have faced a challenging year, and our priority throughout has been to protect our people and our business. As part of this and in order to survive the coming months, we asked our staff to sign up to a voluntary agreement to help us cover the cost of Employer NIC/Pension amounts, in the form of a loan. Every single employee chose to sign up to this agreement.â
We were trying to keep all 500 plus staff in a job not out of one like it has been reported.
Seems to me to have been blown out of proportion and people getting the wrong end of the stick.
Seems to me to have been blown out of proportion and people getting the wrong end of the stick.