Time for Gibson to sell up

[JM14]

Get a grip. Saved us as a club 38 years ago, and has been our lifeline ever since. I would much rather hedge my bets on Steve Gibson than a Johnny come lately charlatan trying to asset strip the club.

Proud to support a club owned by a Boro fan who wants us to succeed just as much as anyone else.

What benefit do we get with Gibson as owner over him selling up?

From what I can see, we are a poor mid table championship side, with a huge turnover of managers/players every few years, lacking any real direction and an owner making bad decision after bad decision, who also can’t compete financially with most clubs in this league.

And as fans we have to pay more than the rest of the league and half of the premier league to watch our team play.

Not sure having a Boro fan as owner outweighs any of that

 

[Caesium137]

Who would buy Boro at the minute though?

The Middlesborrow Red Bulls...........

 

[dooderooni]

Akpom didn’t want to stay, Giles was offered more money elsewhere and Archer moved for £18m.

Say we signed Archer and Giles. £23m plus wages and bonuses over 4 or 5 years. It’s an insane amount of money for a club without parachute payments. They went to Premier League clubs for a reason. Akpom went to Ajax. We operate in a different stratosphere to clubs with that sort of finance. It’ll be like that until we go up.

You can’t hold a gun to Giles, Archer or Akpom’s head and make them sign. If they wanted to be at Boro then they would be. The bottom line is they’re playing for money and they could get more elsewhere. They could get top-level domestic and European football elsewhere. We can’t compete with that.

So when will we go up if we can't afford to invest in players of that quality? Our record in the loan market, apart from last season, isn't great so where does that leave us?
I've said elsewhere that I think we'll sell this summer and further reduce the quality of the squad. Had we not sold Rogers after 6 months I might have been less suspicious of the club, but it seems that we won't keep anybody decent long enough for them to have an impact on the pitch. It stinks of the Amer years when we were more than happy to plod along and sell our best players and we all know how that turned out.
The policy seems to be that we'll throw enough cheap players at it and hope that we get enough decent ones together in one season to challenge. If we don't do it that season then we'll rinse and repeat rather than retain and add to it.

 

[WhitRed]

Get a grip. Saved us as a club 38 years ago, and has been our lifeline ever since. I would much rather hedge my bets on Steve Gibson than a Johnny come lately charlatan trying to asset strip the club.

Proud to support a club owned by a Boro fan who wants us to succeed just as much as anyone else.

For your information, he personally didn't save us 38 years ago, he was one of a consortium headed by Colin Henderson.

 

[Defender 4x4]

Get a grip. Saved us as a club 38 years ago, and has been our lifeline ever since. I would much rather hedge my bets on Steve Gibson than a Johnny come lately charlatan trying to asset strip the club.

Proud to support a club owned by a Boro fan who wants us to succeed just as much as anyone else.

A lot of fans were not born 38 years ago. Since Eindhoven the club has been on down hill spiral. Asset strip the club ? are you having a laugh. Please list some assets which are worth stripping.

 

[bungydinsdale]

FFS, I see the chicken lickens are out in force again after a loss. In GIbbo I trust

 

[adammarc_98]

For your information, he personally didn't save us 38 years ago, he was one of a consortium headed by Colin Henderson.

Well aware of this, doesn't negate my point. Without his contribution, we would not have a football club to support.

 

[JM14]

FFS, I see the chicken lickens are out in force again after a loss. In GIbbo I trust

What has Gibson done recently to make you trust him to run our club?

 

[Defender 4x4]

FFS, I see the chicken lickens are out in force again after a loss. In GIbbo I trust

FFS I see the Ostriches have their heads in the sand. After another defeat.

 

[viv_andersons_nana]

So when will we go up if we can't afford to invest in players of that quality? Our record in the loan market, apart from last season, isn't great so where does that leave us?
I've said elsewhere that I think we'll sell this summer and further reduce the quality of the squad. Had we not sold Rogers after 6 months I might have been less suspicious of the club, but it seems that we won't keep anybody decent long enough for them to have an impact on the pitch. It stinks of the Amer years when we were more than happy to plod along and sell our best players and we all know how that turned out.
The policy seems to be that we'll throw enough cheap players at it and hope that we get enough decent ones together in one season to challenge. If we don't do it that season then we'll rinse and repeat rather than retain and add to it.

I don’t really disagree with you on that tbh. I was very surprised to see Crooks allowed to leave having not added a striker in January. It suggests either they decided to ‘wing it’ with what we have and keep our powder dry until the summer window, or a general incompetence in terms of planning. We were so obviously in need of strengthening in that area that to actually weaken it does really set your mind racing.

I think we’re just hoping to ease through what remains of this season and then spend the money we do have in the summer. Who knows though. The drop off since Chelsea is alarming to say the least.

 

[dooderooni]

All this talk of big spending in the summer is staving off a lot of awkward questions in my opinion. The lack of any sort of rallying call to go with the announcement of the price increase and the limited time to renew just further puts me in the mind that we won't be spending more than we did this summer. Even if the club had said we need your support to keep us competitive it would have been better than saying nothing other than the prices are going up to cover the running costs.

 

[North22]

Leave Gibson alone don’t forget he knocked £4 off a kids ticket.

 

[Soutra]

I didn't blame him for last season, but he has to bear a huge amount of blame for this one. If he can afford to write off so much debt then why not put that money to a better use, one that might have seen a return rather than being a guaranteed loss?

Because the money that was "written off" was debt converted to equity. This was money that already went into the club and was already spent.

Putting it to "better use" would mean spending somewhere else entirely, not MFC.

 

[Paulh10]

Will you be buying him out ? I Certainly don't see a whole host of Middle Eastern Billionaires queuing up to do so.

This kind of response is said alot by Boro fans is that what the likes of man city's fans and so on said.

 

[bungydinsdale]

What has Gibson done recently to make you trust him to run our club?

Continued to put millions of his own money into the club to keep it going. Sure not all his decisions are 100 per cent great, but he's the one putting the money in and can make those decisions.
As a fan you can either support him or not. I chose to support him, believing that he has the best interests of the club at heart.
I don't want a foreign owner of the club who doesn't have the club and as it's heart and if a Saudi Investment Fund or similar came and bought the Boro I'd stop supporting them as that's not what the club I fell in love with is all about.
You can want your new owners/investors etc etc, but I'm happy to have a local lad own us, who wants the club to succeed, rather than a bunch of mercenaries or con man to run us.
I'm not one to run around yelling that the sky's falling in after few bad results (and come on, how many of us expected anything other than a mid-table year while we rebuild at the start of the season?)
So stop throwing your toys out and crying for new owners and just get behind the team on the pitch.
Or get your hands in your pocket and buy it yourself.
UTB

 

[parmoboy]

I guess it's only an investment if it works and you go up and stay up. We invested when we last got relegated and it didn't pay off. Lots of teams have spent big including us over the years and it doesn’t pay off.

Luton have gone up without spending anything like we have, those players didn't want to play in the championship, why would they when they can play in the Premier league, even if only for one season initially or play for a well known European club.

I would say MC blew the best chance the club had of promotion last year, it was in our hands, we lost momentum at a crucial time and rolled over to Coventry in the home tie, yet SG gets the blame.

According to transfermarket we have spent £14m this season, and that doesn't include loan players and the players we signed for free.

2nd placed Ipswich spent £4m.

Recruitment hasn't been great but at the same time, people can't say that we haven't spent money.

Recruitment was brilliant last season but Carrick couldn't get us over the line.

 

[MFCJ]

Continued to put millions of his own money into the club to keep it going. Sure not all his decisions are 100 per cent great, but he's the one putting the money in and can make those decisions.
As a fan you can either support him or not. I chose to support him, believing that he has the best interests of the club at heart.
I don't want a foreign owner of the club who doesn't have the club and as it's heart and if a Saudi Investment Fund or similar came and bought the Boro I'd stop supporting them as that's not what the club I fell in love with is all about.
You can want your new owners/investors etc etc, but I'm happy to have a local lad own us, who wants the club to succeed, rather than a bunch of mercenaries or con man to run us.
I'm not one to run around yelling that the sky's falling in after few bad results (and come on, how many of us expected anything other than a mid-table year while we rebuild at the start of the season?)
So stop throwing your toys out and crying for new owners and just get behind the team on the pitch.
Or get your hands in your pocket and buy it yourself.
UTB

The local lad keeps rincing the fans with his ticket prices.

 

[1finny]

Well aware of this, doesn't negate my point. Without his contribution, we would not have a football club to support.

Utter rubbish - the club would and will survive in some way shape or form with or without Gibson.

Can't you see the club is in decline? Poorly run, terrible transfers, sell our best players at the first sign of interest, can't run a club shop, don't respect ex players, treat fans appalling

There is something in this.
Reminds me a little of Man Utd. Specifically Ratcliffe’s comments.
The change needs to start around the club - changing managers and dipping in and out of the transfer market when the foundations are broken achieves nothing.
If we were owned by ‘foreign investors’ and they had presided over the last 10 years we’d be screaming at them.

As it is - he’s a Boro fan so that’s ok.

 

[1finny]

that he has the best interests of the club at heart.
I don't want a foreign owner of the club who doesn't have the club and as it's heart and if a Saudi Investment Fund or similar came and bought the Boro I'd stop

Agree ref Saudi or any owner that doesn’t share my values.

Let’s be clear tho SG is in this for himself. It’s his toy, he does what he wants with it.
You only have to read the transcript of his dealings with Musgrave and Corney to understand how he operates.

If anyone thinks he cares about the area, the fans or community they haven’t been paying attention.

 

[JM14]

Continued to put millions of his own money into the club to keep it going. Sure not all his decisions are 100 per cent great, but he's the one putting the money in and can make those decisions.
As a fan you can either support him or not. I chose to support him, believing that he has the best interests of the club at heart.
I don't want a foreign owner of the club who doesn't have the club and as it's heart and if a Saudi Investment Fund or similar came and bought the Boro I'd stop supporting them as that's not what the club I fell in love with is all about.
You can want your new owners/investors etc etc, but I'm happy to have a local lad own us, who wants the club to succeed, rather than a bunch of mercenaries or con man to run us.
I'm not one to run around yelling that the sky's falling in after few bad results (and come on, how many of us expected anything other than a mid-table year while we rebuild at the start of the season?)
So stop throwing your toys out and crying for new owners and just get behind the team on the pitch.
Or get your hands in your pocket and buy it yourself.
UTB

So basically put money in to cover his own debts, and the fact he was born close to the stadium makes you think he is running the club correctly?

What about the fact we have gone from an established premier league side playing in Europe to having one season in the premier league in the last 15 years? And currently look more likely to end up in league one than the premier league in the near future. That’s slightly more important to be than the owner being a Boro fan.