Time for Gibson to sell up

EIO-Shropshire said:
Will you be buying him out ? I Certainly don't see a whole host of Middle Eastern Billionaires queuing up to do so.
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Didn't he reject the Chinese who subsequently bought Wolves & haven't looked back whilst we head towards league one.
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EIO-Shropshire said:
Will you be buying him out ? I Certainly don't see a whole host of Middle Eastern Billionaires queuing up to do so.
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We don't need to find a massive investor like City or the Geordies, just someone who can afford to invest in the squad to improve it rather than being reliant on selling players just to keep the club going.
 
locomansimon said:
FFP, a new owner couldn't spend any more money than steve gibson who has just written off 140 million of debt, i really don't understand how a new owner would help
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Can't you see the club is in decline? Poorly run, terrible transfers, sell our best players at the first sign of interest, can't run a club shop, don't respect ex players, treat fans appalling
 
locomansimon said:
FFP, a new owner couldn't spend any more money than steve gibson who has just written off 140 million of debt, i really don't understand how a new owner would help
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You reply with this on every single post about Gibson, we are absolutely nowhere near ffp limits. And the reason for all of that debt is the shambolic way the club has been ran for the last 15 years
 
I do think it is time for change all these other clubs are getting new owners yet we stuck with the same old and nothings changing we in the mud going backwards. It's a billionaires game not a millionaires now we need someone richer and with more ambition. As sadly Gibson can't take us any further than what we are.
 
locomansimon said:
FFP, a new owner couldn't spend any more money than steve gibson who has just written off 140 million of debt, i really don't understand how a new owner would help
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They would help as they would increase standards across the club. Under Gibson the clubs being run shambolicaly currently
 
Corco65 said:
But you are asking for more debt, or do you expect someone else to waste their own money for your pleasure?
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Debt or investment?
The commentator on the Luton game said Luton guaranteed themselves at least £90m by going up.
At the end of last season we had 90% of our scouting for a promotion push done for us. Invest in Akpom, Giles and Archer. Bolster the defence and try and go one better.
We seem uniquely able to give money to managers that probably don't deserve it then not support those who do.
 
dooderooni said:
Debt or investment?
The commentator on the Luton game said Luton guaranteed themselves at least £90m by going up.
At the end of last season we had 90% of our scouting for a promotion push done for us. Invest in Akpom, Giles and Archer. Bolster the defence and try and go one better.
We seem uniquely able to give money to managers that probably don't deserve it then not support those who do.
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I guess it's only an investment if it works and you go up and stay up. We invested when we last got relegated and it didn't pay off. Lots of teams have spent big including us over the years and it doesn’t pay off.

Luton have gone up without spending anything like we have, those players didn't want to play in the championship, why would they when they can play in the Premier league, even if only for one season initially or play for a well known European club.

I would say MC blew the best chance the club had of promotion last year, it was in our hands, we lost momentum at a crucial time and rolled over to Coventry in the home tie, yet SG gets the blame.
 
Corco65 said:
I guess it's only an investment if it works and you go up and stay up. We invested when we last got relegated and it didn't pay off. Lots of teams have spent big including us over the years and it doesn’t pay off.

Luton have gone up without spending anything like we have, those players didn't want to play in the championship, why would they when they can play in the Premier league, even if only for one season initially or play for a well known European club.

I would say MC blew the best chance the club had of promotion last year, it was in our hands, we lost momentum at a crucial time and rolled over to Coventry in the home tie, yet SG gets the blame.
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I didn't blame him for last season, but he has to bear a huge amount of blame for this one. If he can afford to write off so much debt then why not put that money to a better use, one that might have seen a return rather than being a guaranteed loss?
 
dooderooni said:
I didn't blame him for last season, but he has to bear a huge amount of blame for this one. If he can afford to write off so much debt then why not put that money to a better use, one that might have seen a return rather than being a guaranteed loss?
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From what I have seen we are the 6th biggest spenders in the league this season, the bigger spenders include the 3 who came down, Coventry who received a significant amount in sales and the outlier is Stoke and look were they are.
 
It's no use changing managers when the problem is right at the top. The whole club is mired in years of nepotism, old school boys, poor recruitment and a industrial waste of money on $hite players. If Boro want to move forward Gibson needs to go.
 
Get a grip. Saved us as a club 38 years ago, and has been our lifeline ever since. I would much rather hedge my bets on Steve Gibson than a Johnny come lately charlatan trying to asset strip the club.

Proud to support a club owned by a Boro fan who wants us to succeed just as much as anyone else.
 
dooderooni said:
Debt or investment?
The commentator on the Luton game said Luton guaranteed themselves at least £90m by going up.
At the end of last season we had 90% of our scouting for a promotion push done for us. Invest in Akpom, Giles and Archer. Bolster the defence and try and go one better.
We seem uniquely able to give money to managers that probably don't deserve it then not support those who do.
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Akpom didn’t want to stay, Giles was offered more money elsewhere and Archer moved for £18m.

Say we signed Archer and Giles. £23m plus wages and bonuses over 4 or 5 years. It’s an insane amount of money for a club without parachute payments. They went to Premier League clubs for a reason. Akpom went to Ajax. We operate in a different stratosphere to clubs with that sort of finance. It’ll be like that until we go up.

You can’t hold a gun to Giles, Archer or Akpom’s head and make them sign. If they wanted to be at Boro then they would be. The bottom line is they’re playing for money and they could get more elsewhere. They could get top level domestic and European football elsewhere. We can’t compete with that, unfortunately.

I think the idea that we were anywhere near to signing or keeping hold of any of those three players last summer is complete fantasy tbh. The only place I’ve read that they were ever likely to stay is on here. It was never going to happen.
 
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