supermfc
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What defeat? We drew 3-3 when we last played them!
This meeting with Gibson
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Simply red
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Way beyond you and your views , most will know what I mean .
I will spell it out .
A community club,
A club built on being close to the people in its area .
A pride and passion for the club and area.
A bond between fans and club that others envy .
Millwall are a close knit club like us , seen as the underdog in the area ( north east )
' The Infant Hercules '
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How does this make any sense? If the deadline is before the window opens then whether it is 1 day or 100 days doesn't make any difference. We're not making payments for new signings in March.
Oops sorry. As Finn Azaz would know all toi well
r00fie1
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Try reading this tetchy! xxxxx
Some have even posted the Red Faction response again on here.
Dreadful isn't it.
Are you going Saturday?
Who said millions ?
Not proclaiming to know how to EXACTLY do that , but I do know what's a barrier to potential new customers...
Off the top of my head
A) make it easier for potential new customers to attend.. i.e 80 quid a month for 10 months is easier for a family to find than ' you have 2 months to find 800 quid '
A thousand new doing that is 800k
B) Accept that the family zone is a great idea for those with under 11s .. but not for those with teens .. So offer another option for ST price incremates.
C) Get the commercial aspect of the club sorted.
There's no way on ' bring a scarf night ' I should be buying an unofficial scarf cos we have none.
Or be buying unofficial shirts cos the club have none .Or missing 5 mins either side of half time to be served , and drink a pint.
D) Offer family oriented ' dad and lad / parent and child walk ups ' ..
E) There's a captive audience for live professional sport for this club with v little competition for 20 odd miles .. that's rare .. don't take it for granted.
F) this is another elephant in the room...
Maybe, some of our fans, who have the most money, get the best deal .. below market value.
Maybe.. some should be paying more and wouldn't notice after a grumble .
G) stop charging a levy for new ST .. it makes no moral or ethical sense
I do appreciate your tired and stuff ..
However I've been working, so answer when I can.
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sambaDTR
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I hope this week has been a major turning point between MFC and their brilliant fans. We all want the best for this Club. The situation with the Early Bird Season ticket email was ridiculous. No excuse. Surely the Club must realise that. Let us now move on. We have a great Chairman, a fan who has always supported the Club since it was bankrupt. As long as he keeps putting his money in so should we. IF WE CAN. He has made mistakes at times but that is part of running a Football Club. Hopefully we can all start to now communicate properly, be an open Club, a totally inclusive Community Club. Make sure all levels of fan can afford to go to the match, especially the kids. We don’t want anybody born, or living, within twenty miles of Middlesbrough supporting anybody else. Let’s fill the ground every week. If any tickets are left give them to the schools etc. We have a large Asian community. We need to be attracting them. Other communities in the Teesside area such as Ukranian refugees etc. We are Teesside. Everybody should be welcome to support the best Club in the North East. The commercial side needs to be sorted out. We need to see people walking round Teesside with Boro shirts, coats etc. We have a great Manager in Michael Carrick, a good young team who want to play football in an entertaining way. Let’s get ourselves sorted out for Saturday and now start to look forward to a bright future. 
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As a small anecdote..
A pal of mine ( late 30s ) is on a bit above minimum wage.
He had a season ticket from age 10 to 28ish.
Split from his missus, sees the bairn ( a teen ) once / maybe twice a week.
I'm guessing he's got 3 months wages in ' emergency savings '
If his car breaks down, boiler goes etc that's there for that .
He hasn't got spare season ticket money for them both at two months notice .
But he probably has 50 a month over 10 months .
How many of like him are they in the locality, not getting the bug ?
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newyddion
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Echoing the same point I made nearly a year ago..I hope this week has been a major turning point between MFC and their brilliant fans. We all want the best for this Club. The situation with the Early Bird Season ticket email was ridiculous. No excuse. Surely the Club must realise that. Let us now move on. We have a great Chairman, a fan who has always supported the Club since it was bankrupt. As long as he keeps putting his money in so should we. IF WE CAN. He has made mistakes at times but that is part of running a Football Club. Hopefully we can all start to now communicate properly, be an open Club, a Community Club. Make sure all levels of fan can afford to go to the match, especially the kids. We don’t want anybody born, or living, within twenty miles of Middlesbrough supporting anybody else. Let’s fill the ground every week. If any tickets are left give them to the schools etc. We have a large Asian community. We need to be attracting them. Other communities in the Teesside area such as Ukranian refugees etc. We are Teesside. Everybody should be welcome to support the best Club in the North East. The commercial side needs to be sorted out. We need to see people walking round Teesside with Boro shirts, coats etc. We have a great Manager in Michael Carrick, a good young team who want to play football in an entertaining way. Let’s get ourselves sorted out for Saturday and now start to look forward to a bright future.
Post in thread 'NEW BORO BAME Fans group'
https://fmttmboro.com/index.php?threads/new-boro-bame-fans-group.42310/post-1019284
Even mentioned the possibility of a price freeze.
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sugee jung
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I've seen FC United issue tickets for 10 matches.That is, if we don't sell all the season tickets. If there's anything left Should it be sold like this?
For football fans who used to hold season tickets But this year you couldn't find the money to buy it in time. You will be able to watch some games at a cheaper price than buying before the game.
I heard "outoftown" friend's story and felt so sorry.
When I had a small salary, don't even buy tickets to watch football.
Just going to take the bus I also had to choose a bus without air conditioning.
For football fans who used to hold season tickets But this year you couldn't find the money to buy it in time. You will be able to watch some games at a cheaper price than buying before the game.
I heard "outoftown" friend's story and felt so sorry.
When I had a small salary, don't even buy tickets to watch football.
Just going to take the bus I also had to choose a bus without air conditioning.
Quicksilvera
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I never thought we would ever be compared to Millwall, it’s an interesting one.
Quicksilvera
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We’re all facking burrah ain’t we you mug.Don’t they boo taking the knee as well
Decent_Left
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Did the urgency and therefore the **** poor comms around the price increase and the short time frame to renew have anything to do with the Prem League clubs reneging on the previously promised increased EFL solidarity payment for this year. I’ve heard that several clubs in the EFL had already spent it in advance. Were we one of them.
In Football finance in this country is a bin fire news even worse is that the a couple of Prem clubs that were behind this collective reneging did so as they would have to take out a loan to cover their contribution to the fund. I’d like to think it’s maybe these clubs that are coming straight back down and will suffer their own consequences for this decision next season
In Football finance in this country is a bin fire news even worse is that the a couple of Prem clubs that were behind this collective reneging did so as they would have to take out a loan to cover their contribution to the fund. I’d like to think it’s maybe these clubs that are coming straight back down and will suffer their own consequences for this decision next season
Zoophonic
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Fair if predictable take on the situation although you have been cynical even before the statement cane out.
MikeSkinner
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If that's the case then well done, but a deadline being extended is an easy thing for the club to do, I'm sure they have done this a few times before?
The main problem and the crux of RF's protest is the price of football, no point extending a deadline if people can't pay it. Yeah maybe you can have longer to save up, but you don't want to be and shouldn't have to pay that much money to watch football. Therefore without RF's push the freeze of STs and reduction in walk up for u18s wouldn't of happened.
Cattermole crying and the toxic crowd was based on how the team was performing, if there was going to be any toxicity from this it wouldn't be at the players or management.
My main takeaway from all this is
1. Gibson forced to the table by 40 fans.
2. He doesn't do anything on the back of MSF that impacts fans. The foodbank collections are good for community but what else has come of it?
3. If you get an invite to these things, which most weren't even told was happening, you cannot say what was discussed until Gibson signs the words off.
4. We are a million miles away from being a fan centred club. Gibson misses the point that we know he backs the club. Some of the ideas fans have for increasing revenue would actually benefit him and the club. A lot of us have business and customer experience knowledge. The club is run like a small family operation it feels like most of the time.
5. We won't know for another year if the latest promise to be more open means anything. They have said exactly the same thing in recent years.
6. Other than a boycott we have no clout. We are hostages to our club. We are never going to say enough is enough in enough numbers. Perhaps a coordinated one off might work. But I still think the majority would ignore and say, well things aren't that bad.
7. We still don't know if the regular meeting took place two weeks ago and if so what was actually discussed in it.
1. Gibson forced to the table by 40 fans.
2. He doesn't do anything on the back of MSF that impacts fans. The foodbank collections are good for community but what else has come of it?
3. If you get an invite to these things, which most weren't even told was happening, you cannot say what was discussed until Gibson signs the words off.
4. We are a million miles away from being a fan centred club. Gibson misses the point that we know he backs the club. Some of the ideas fans have for increasing revenue would actually benefit him and the club. A lot of us have business and customer experience knowledge. The club is run like a small family operation it feels like most of the time.
5. We won't know for another year if the latest promise to be more open means anything. They have said exactly the same thing in recent years.
6. Other than a boycott we have no clout. We are hostages to our club. We are never going to say enough is enough in enough numbers. Perhaps a coordinated one off might work. But I still think the majority would ignore and say, well things aren't that bad.
7. We still don't know if the regular meeting took place two weeks ago and if so what was actually discussed in it.
ForssAwakens
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Rob has said the meeting took place 2 weeks ago, despite this he claims the club blindsided then with the renewal news.
Well that kind of proves earlier points. They don't care what fans think and don't involve them in things. I would suggest Rob is wasting his time going to these meetings.
There's another couple of examples of how the club works.
I complained recently about someone who sits near me at the Riverside. I ended up in hospital with chest pains due to his behaviour. I ask to move seats as a result. I told them about this person and what he did. They moved my seat but have never mentioned the other person or any action. I'm guessing I didn't make it public enough, video him etc and post on social media.
And the other one - Stoke the other year. Complete whitewash of an enquiry. Nothing from the club a out how we were treated. Rob was invited to the game last year, but what about us who experienced it? Just expected to trust it won't happen again?
Sorry, once you start thinking about things it all comes out.
I complained recently about someone who sits near me at the Riverside. I ended up in hospital with chest pains due to his behaviour. I ask to move seats as a result. I told them about this person and what he did. They moved my seat but have never mentioned the other person or any action. I'm guessing I didn't make it public enough, video him etc and post on social media.
And the other one - Stoke the other year. Complete whitewash of an enquiry. Nothing from the club a out how we were treated. Rob was invited to the game last year, but what about us who experienced it? Just expected to trust it won't happen again?
Sorry, once you start thinking about things it all comes out.
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