SmallTown
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HUh?
This is the most corrupt government we’ve ever had
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Ashcroft
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All voting on faked evidence of WMD - that's kind of the point.
Laughing
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To try and get the thread back on track, Blair was thoroughly investigated and there was nothing the judiciary could level at him over Iraq. Whilst, morally, what he did was repugnant, there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute anyone. At the time Chilcot was given unprecedented access to secure documents and was allowed to call anyone for evidenciary purposes. The report concluded the war was premature, there was no immediate threat and NATO had been undermined. It further went on to say that no post invasion plan was put in place. It never, at any point, concluded that Blair had lied to parliament.
Whilst the level of suffering that was caused by the ill advised invasion of Iraq is unprecedented in modern times, by a British government, no illegal acts were uncovered.
Now compare that with what the current government are doing:
They are openly stealing tax payers money, lining their own, and friends of the parties pockets.
They are currently trying to pass a bill that will mean an incumbent PM can pass any bill he wants, without going to parliament, this effectively removes the judiciary from the UK's legal structure as far as the PM is concerned.
They want the ONLY elected body, parliament, removed from the decision making process.
They have manipulated the legal standards for lockdown to allow Cummings to stay in his post
They abandoned care homes and left 20,000 people to die
This government have done all this without even a veneer of process, caring not one jot what the electorate think. Yes it is the most corrupt government in my life time.
Whilst the level of suffering that was caused by the ill advised invasion of Iraq is unprecedented in modern times, by a British government, no illegal acts were uncovered.
Now compare that with what the current government are doing:
They are openly stealing tax payers money, lining their own, and friends of the parties pockets.
They are currently trying to pass a bill that will mean an incumbent PM can pass any bill he wants, without going to parliament, this effectively removes the judiciary from the UK's legal structure as far as the PM is concerned.
They want the ONLY elected body, parliament, removed from the decision making process.
They have manipulated the legal standards for lockdown to allow Cummings to stay in his post
They abandoned care homes and left 20,000 people to die
This government have done all this without even a veneer of process, caring not one jot what the electorate think. Yes it is the most corrupt government in my life time.
Rightly, there have been serious questions asked about the non-tendered contract for PPE supplies from Pestfix. It seems it wasn't just one but eleven contracts.
The Good Law Project ( @jolyonmaugham )have filed legal proceedings and are suing the BritGov over these and other dealings. The case is due to go ahead.
It would be worth following Maugham on twitter to follow the process. There appears to be more going than we realise.
The Good Law Project ( @jolyonmaugham )have filed legal proceedings and are suing the BritGov over these and other dealings. The case is due to go ahead.
It would be worth following Maugham on twitter to follow the process. There appears to be more going than we realise.
Duffman
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The behaviour of the government will be whitewashed over as ‘acting in crisis’ or ‘needing to act with expediency in unprecedented times’ . 90% of the blame will fall on the Health advisors ‘on who’s advice we as a government always acted upon’. The Health Advisers never of course got involved in any of the sleazy procurement or ordering of inferior or inappropriate PPE but as I say the folk who put their tick in the box for this horrible useless government are not going to admit they got it wrong after just 8 months and they will completely support the narrative developed by Cummings to excuse their behaviour. You can already read it on here and in the conversations in the pubs. The country is in big trouble and we have put a clown in charge - God help us. In other news New Zealand has the first four cases in weeks today and immediately moved into pre planned well understood lockdown arrangements - no if’s no but’s - proper leadership from a proper leader.
Laughing
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Duffman, incompetence is not the same as corrupt which is an important distinction. Secondly, I get that some people, unaffected by covid and economic fallout, will still vote for the tories. The 60,000 dead have families and friends who will not vote tory. Add in to that all the folks that will be directly effected by our economic failures, I think it will be quite hard for tories to get any majority in the next election.
Duffman
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Ordinarily I would agree but the demonisation in the election of Labour and Corbyn proved to be incredibly successful in turning hardened labour supporters away from the party and doing what I am sure for many would have previously been unthinkable- voting Tory. We can blame Brexit but ultimately the damage has been done and even a progressive clever and caring bloke like Starmer will have his work cut out to remove the pollution placed in former labour voters minds by Cummings election tactics.
It's actually unlawful for Gov. procurement to place contracts without putting them out to tender first. They didn't rescind this law. Don't think it's covered in the emergency Covid act. But probably worth checking. Given Maugham's previous actions I shouldn't think he would go ahead without knowing what was actionable.
Also he has a lot specialist lawyers more than willing to give their advice.
Because they're extremely worried about what Johnson and Co. are up to, especially efforts being being made to suspend Judicial Review. With a large majority this would make it a true elected dictatorship if it were to go ahead.
Also he has a lot specialist lawyers more than willing to give their advice.
Because they're extremely worried about what Johnson and Co. are up to, especially efforts being being made to suspend Judicial Review. With a large majority this would make it a true elected dictatorship if it were to go ahead.
Laughing
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Ziggy, I am pretty sure the covid bill allows for procurement of covid related supplies and services to go through without the usual tendering process, and that in itself is OK. The Good Law Project are concentrating on another procurement that has nothing to do with covid, but brexit, that did not go through the usual tendering process.
"The government is facing legal action after awarding an £108m contract for personal protective equipment (PPE) to a pest control company worth just over £19,000.
The Good Law Project today filed legal proceedings against the government over its multimillion-pound deal with Pestfix — which has just 16 staff — to provide equipment such as gowns and face masks to the NHS."
City am
More info @jolyonmaugham
The Good Law Project today filed legal proceedings against the government over its multimillion-pound deal with Pestfix — which has just 16 staff — to provide equipment such as gowns and face masks to the NHS."
City am
More info @jolyonmaugham
Muttley
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Serco, currently running the "Track and Trace" program for the U Government. Got the contract for between £50-100million depending on whose figures you use. How? Well they got a phone call from Public Health England officials on 22nd January. This from a Customer Communication letter from Garry Robinson (Customer Services Director, Serco)
On the 22nd January we were still nearly two months from lockdown. Publicly the Government was still playing down the virus and Johnson had not yet bothered to attend a COBRA meeting
The program is shockingly inept. Serco have previous form for ineptitude (fined £1million for failures on another government contract a few months ago). Rupert Soames, grandson of Sir Winston Churchill, is chief executive of Serco. Serco has received larger fines in the past, notably more than £19m as part of a settlement with the Serious Fraud Office over failures in electronic tagging dating back to 2010.
Oh and Health Minister Edward Argar is defending them saying we should stick with them.
Edward Argar's last job before Government?
Anyone want to guess?
Yup, worked for... Serco.
On the 22nd January we were still nearly two months from lockdown. Publicly the Government was still playing down the virus and Johnson had not yet bothered to attend a COBRA meeting
The program is shockingly inept. Serco have previous form for ineptitude (fined £1million for failures on another government contract a few months ago). Rupert Soames, grandson of Sir Winston Churchill, is chief executive of Serco. Serco has received larger fines in the past, notably more than £19m as part of a settlement with the Serious Fraud Office over failures in electronic tagging dating back to 2010.
Oh and Health Minister Edward Argar is defending them saying we should stick with them.
Edward Argar's last job before Government?
Anyone want to guess?
Yup, worked for... Serco.
Laughing
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It seems like they are looking at filing a second complaint also. The problem with these type of reviews, and I am not knocking them in principle, is that like the prorogue of parliament, there will be no punishment and most of the electorate don't understand the underlying problem with a government behaving this way.
They may win, or not.
What will happen, because the media have barely acknowledged that this level of corruption is occurring, is it will have to be addressed and reported upon.
Anything that can expose the sheer criminality and abuse of this mafia government the better.
Vast amounts of what these companies provided was substandard, and was withdrawn. Did contracts stipulate penalty clauses?
People died, who may have lived, because of this criminal fiasco. Hopefully things will be revealed. Then the country can decide. For me anything that undermines these heartless money grabbing bästards is a positive.
What will happen, because the media have barely acknowledged that this level of corruption is occurring, is it will have to be addressed and reported upon.
Anything that can expose the sheer criminality and abuse of this mafia government the better.
Vast amounts of what these companies provided was substandard, and was withdrawn. Did contracts stipulate penalty clauses?
People died, who may have lived, because of this criminal fiasco. Hopefully things will be revealed. Then the country can decide. For me anything that undermines these heartless money grabbing bästards is a positive.
FartingGnome
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Did I read it right that they got 30% of the £108 million up front?