Hosted in RomaniaThis needs full cooperation from Telegram, otherwise shut them down. It's a hive of right wing, terrorist, extremists and criminals that place.
ah a brexit benefit, in charge of our own laws etc. Maybe one day the mugwumps who voted for brexit will recognise that we live in a homogenous world where trying to cut yourselves off and have complete autonomy over your own laws is impossible. We will find it very difficult to get cooperation and access to that data then?! Of course our government would love to use situations like this to create a chinese style access to the internet, stopping us getting to any info that they don't deem appropriate.Hosted in Romania
.....and this Pablo guy attempting to justify it all. Is this what we've become?I mentioned this on the England Fans thread yesterday. This is what I mean about it perhaps not all appearing as it was. I think there was two distinct situations going on at Wembley. A large group without tickets, but with Monday off work wanted to make the day of it. The plan was probably drink and party in the area before going to the pubs for the game. It was that lot who basically made a right mess leaving cans, bottles and stuff all over.
The second group were organised with the intention of this jibbing thing. It's likely that the group intending to drink and party became aware of jibbing and fancied a piece of the action and it's all escalated very quickly.
Yup, the rise of the yob, the days of anarchy and the era of the anti-socialist.....and this Pablo guy attempting to justify it all. Is this what we've become?
I'm not sure that's a bad thing, we should at least be making attempts to be more civilised before we're trusted with the welfare of fans travelling from abroad.Well whatever the cause there’s one thing for certain now ..............England ain’t ever going to hold a tournament for a very long time to come
It's completely unacceptable and a total lack of effective control from the FA and Met. Reports are suggesting that jibbing was happening for the Denmark game too. If that's the case, it was probably happening for the Germany game and perhaps all the group games......and this Pablo guy attempting to justify it all. Is this what we've become?
I am sad to say this, but I’m glad. We are not fit or worthy to. Organised selfish mobs doing what they want, whenever they want, without a care for the effect on others safety. They’ll all be bragging about it to their mates. I hope enough are daft enough to do so on social media and can be found. You’d think the cameras in the stadium would help highlight those not entitled to be sat in certain areas.Well whatever the cause there’s one thing for certain now ..............England ain’t ever going to hold a tournament for a very long time to come
I think (i might be wrong) that the Liverpool and Man u hoolies, years ago, used to travel without paying to away games and it was called jibbing - this is all from memory so as I say, I might be wrongwhy is it called jibbing
agreed, this country has gone backwards into 70s levels of abusive behaviour, racism, selfishness, xenophobia, ignorance, loutishness. We don't deserve a world cup until we start to act a little more respectful to our fellow humansI am sad to say this, but I’m glad. We are not fit or worthy to.
Likewise - In my 50's and worry about the future of this country. It runs a lot deeper than this fiasco.I wonder how it manifested itself in the stadium ? Ok it was just over half capacity but an extra 5k yobs who’ll defo have been drunk and doubtless without face masks etc must have imposed themselves in proper fans ‘personal’ space and safety .
Imagine if you paid a fair whack for your family including young ones who will have been likely exposed to the Neanderthals and your family got the virus . I’d go ballistic albeit you couldn’t prove it .
It’s just the me,me,me generation ripping up all the rules of common decency and respect . Blimey I’m so glad I’m in my fifties
Common decency and football are light years apart.I wonder how it manifested itself in the stadium ? Ok it was just over half capacity but an extra 5k yobs who’ll defo have been drunk and doubtless without face masks etc must have imposed themselves in proper fans ‘personal’ space and safety .
Imagine if you paid a fair whack for your family including young ones who will have been likely exposed to the Neanderthals and your family got the virus . I’d go ballistic albeit you couldn’t prove it .
It’s just the me,me,me generation ripping up all the rules of common decency and respect . Blimey I’m so glad I’m in my fifties
According to reports, that's exactly how it panned out. Those getting inside ended up in areas where genuine fans were supposed to be. Some even got into the section where 1000 Italians had been in a bio-secure bubble.I wonder how it manifested itself in the stadium ? Ok it was just over half capacity but an extra 5k yobs who’ll defo have been drunk and doubtless without face masks etc must have imposed themselves in proper fans ‘personal’ space and safety .
Imagine if you paid a fair whack for your family including young ones who will have been likely exposed to the Neanderthals and your family got the virus . I’d go ballistic albeit you couldn’t prove it .
It’s just the me,me,me generation ripping up all the rules of common decency and respect . Blimey I’m so glad I’m in my fifties