* The Unofficial "Official" Boro v Sheffield Wednesday Match-Day Thread *

Didn't comment during the game last night as wanted to concentrate a bit more on it.

1: Silvera's decision-making is probably some of the worst I've ever seen as a footballer for Boro. I don't think this is going to improve as this is a head thing/natural thing. Doesn't matter how good your feet are, if your head doesn't work, and your head is controlling them. I don't think he quite understands how strong and quick other players can be and he seriously over-values his shooting ability.

2: Crooks isn't fit enough to be playing 90 minutes, he was toast after about 60 minutes and stopped running, in an effective way. In possession, he would run two yards, stop and turn back and play an easy ball, when not in posession he wouldn't (couldn't) make the runs like he used to, to get onto crosses. This didn't achieve anything other than slow momentum down (and actually slow Jones down), and when he was tired his forward passing became a bit lazy also. He put a shift in for the 60 mins, so it's not a dig at him, but the combination of Jones and Crooks could have been better timed.

3: Jones was very effective, but I think it helped him that their left back and whole side had tired by the time he came on. Problem was our other players were tired when he came on, he must have got round the back or beat his man 20 times, but nobody could keep up. It was often 1 v 4 in their box, so he couldn't even cross it if he wanted to, ended up slowing down most of the time, and then waiting until payers made it to the top of the box. Opportunity wasted. I think bringing him on at HT could be a good long-term ploy and bring Crooks on at the same time. Should have brought Latte on at the same time too, and could have even dropped Coburn into Crooks role, even if just for fitness/ strength, and sacrificing his goal threat, or push Hackney into there.

4: Their goal was extremely lucky, their lad didn't even look up to pull that ball back, but the lad who scored should have been marked. Maybe the sub caused a bit of confusion over who should pick him up, but it's a partial excuse.

Going forward I think our game plan has to be to try and just keep the game fairly tight for 45 minutes, and maybe not even starting with our best team, and then use up what threats we do have (Jobnes/ Crooks combo) when their players are tired. So front 4 I could be starting Coburn, McGree left, Hackney as No10, Forss/ Rogers/ Silvera right. Then second half Latte up top, McGree left, Crooks middle and Jones right, and drop Hackney back into holding mid to replace howson (who is old). Or see how Greenwood can do as a 10.

I think we missed a trick by keeping Crooks on the pitch and could have easily pushed Hackney in there, as we had two good options for holding mid to bring on, with Howson and Barlaser, and bringing Rogers on is a waste of a space on the pitch, like Silvera. I would rather fit Howson and Barlaser or the pitch, and squeeze in others into positions they may not be comfortable with, rather than playing Silvera and Rogers.

Or another option is just sack off the idea of a 10, as it's a massive problem at the minute, for the whole game, so could play 2 up top, or one holding mid and two more progressive mids. McGree could be a shout for No10, but we don't have a good left-wing option, so he's going to have to get stuck out there, unless Forss can go that side.
To add to that: maybe use the first half to tire the opposition, play a solid back four and four in the middle. Play the sort of game that frustrates the opposition, stiffles their game - a bit like a Warnock, then freshen up in the second half, play our expansive style and pull the opposition all over the place. If we keep our heads and connect brains to feet - it might work. ?
 
I think the over criticism of Crooks is unwarranted.
I realise we have a poor side, but it would not be better without Crooks.
It's not a criticism that a player works hard in a physical way, and with a big physical frame and can't last the game at the same level. Most players who play in that way can't, it's horses for courses and everything has an equal and opposite reaction. It's like in cycling, nobody criticises a sprinter because he gets battered on the mountains, that's not his game etc, the same way a small skinny lad might be fit as a filldle but he's not winning physical duels.

Crooks game isn't as an intricate no 10, he’s not going to do that as it’s not his game. He’s got decent feet (very good in fact), but still has to lug the big/ physical frame around etc. It’s hard to keep those good feet when you’re tried though, or out of breath, the heart and lactic acid make it a certainty.

He’ll get goals from there if he’s fit enough to get in the box and this worked under different managers, as he had a different role. Same like Chuba, that 10 role worked for him as he could do the intricate bit, but was fit enough to hit that space between the lines all game, so picked up loads of loose balls between the penalty spot and 30 yards out. Someone with Rogers frame and age may be more suited to that role, but the problem is his feet and head aren’t good enough to do that, maybe that will change, but until it does we’re putting a square peg in a round hole with crooks if trying to do that for 90 miniutes.
 
Didn't comment during the game last night as wanted to concentrate a bit more on it.

1: Silvera's decision-making is probably some of the worst I've ever seen as a footballer for Boro. I don't think this is going to improve as this is a head thing/natural thing. Doesn't matter how good your feet are, if your head doesn't work, and your head is controlling them. I don't think he quite understands how strong and quick other players can be and he seriously over-values his shooting ability.

2: Crooks isn't fit enough to be playing 90 minutes, he was toast after about 60 minutes and stopped running, in an effective way. In possession, he would run two yards, stop and turn back and play an easy ball, when not in posession he wouldn't (couldn't) make the runs like he used to, to get onto crosses. This didn't achieve anything other than slow momentum down (and actually slow Jones down), and when he was tired his forward passing became a bit lazy also. He put a shift in for the 60 mins, so it's not a dig at him, but the combination of Jones and Crooks could have been better timed.

3: Jones was very effective, but I think it helped him that their left back and whole side had tired by the time he came on. Problem was our other players were tired when he came on, he must have got round the back or beat his man 20 times, but nobody could keep up. It was often 1 v 4 in their box, so he couldn't even cross it if he wanted to, ended up slowing down most of the time, and then waiting until payers made it to the top of the box. Opportunity wasted. I think bringing him on at HT could be a good long-term ploy and bring Crooks on at the same time. Should have brought Latte on at the same time too, and could have even dropped Coburn into Crooks role, even if just for fitness/ strength, and sacrificing his goal threat, or push Hackney into there.

4: Their goal was extremely lucky, their lad didn't even look up to pull that ball back, but the lad who scored should have been marked. Maybe the sub caused a bit of confusion over who should pick him up, but it's a partial excuse.

Going forward I think our game plan has to be to try and just keep the game fairly tight for 45 minutes, and maybe not even starting with our best team, and then use up what threats we do have (Jobnes/ Crooks combo) when their players are tired. So front 4 I could be starting Coburn, McGree left, Hackney as No10, Forss/ Rogers/ Silvera right. Then second half Latte up top, McGree left, Crooks middle and Jones right, and drop Hackney back into holding mid to replace howson (who is old). Or see how Greenwood can do as a 10.

I think we missed a trick by keeping Crooks on the pitch and could have easily pushed Hackney in there, as we had two good options for holding mid to bring on, with Howson and Barlaser, and bringing Rogers on is a waste of a space on the pitch, like Silvera. I would rather fit Howson and Barlaser or the pitch, and squeeze in others into positions they may not be comfortable with, rather than playing Silvera and Rogers.

Or another option is just sack off the idea of a 10, as it's a massive problem at the minute, for the whole game, so could play 2 up top, or one holding mid and two more progressive mids. McGree could be a shout for No10, but we don't have a good left-wing option, so he's going to have to get stuck out there, unless Forss can go that side.
You miss out O'Brien.
I'd play him and allow him to build rhythm and confidence.

I'm always wary of this keep your best players on the bench for the second half ploy. Great teams can do it sometimes because their squad is so good.
We have an atrocious squad and have gone behind every match this season. We have been chasing every match.
Our "good" players have not been good enough to get results when going behind.
 
Still praying we will fly up the league after October but it’s not happening this year, all the hallmarks of Woodgate season. Carrick to me doesn’t seem like he has what it takes to get us out of a dog fight but he’s been absolutely shot in the foot with what he’s been given like we all know, I want carrick to stay but I do think with the current predicament we’re in this early in his career will be way too much for him. With boro you never know, we could beat Southampton on Saturday and kick on. This all boils down to bad ownership for years and a **** poor recruitment team, we saw what happened to derby years of missing out of promotion they got ran into the ground. They dropped like a stone. If this was any of other owner at any other club he would get pelters
 
You miss out O'Brien.
I'd play him and allow him to build rhythm and confidence.

I'm always wary of this keep your best players on the bench for the second half ploy. Great teams can do it sometimes because their squad is so good.
We have an atrocious squad and have gone behind every match this season. We have been chasing every match.
Our "good" players have not been good enough to get results when going behind.
Yeah I'd be playing him over Howson, in one of the two holding roles, but not seen enough of him to see if he could do the holding role on his own. He's a starter for me, and I would be looking for him to play the whole game.

We need to be making more of Hackney, O'Brien, Howson and even Barlaser, before we even think about putting Silvera or Rogers on the team sheet, as they've offered nothing so far. I know the latter two are very different players to the former two, but we need to find a way of not having to play them, to be brutally honest, as it's costing us. They either don't create or lose the ball in daft positions when we're over committed which is the absolute worst thing you can ever do, as it leaves you wide open. The rest of our players don't expect them to lose the ball, so get caught out, or they expect them to lose the ball so don't even bother trying to support the play, both are understandable for the other players, but it's not up to standard from Silvera/ Rogers etc.

At least we know Barlaser can play at this level (but hasn't for us yet, but he will) and Howson can do it for at least half a game, maybe even 2/3rds. I wouldn't be playing Jonny more than 60 minutes though, not that he can't do it at the time, but at that age it takes an effect into the next few days, and next game etc. Rather have 60 fresh minutes, than just rolling onto the next when he's never going to be fresh. Could even try Barlaser at 10, he's definitely technically good enough, and suits him as it's less tackling. Or just one holding and two higher, epseically second half, that would suit hackney and barlaser, being higher but not as a 10.

I know what you mean, about not starting with "the best", but I mean play with a different intent for those players, again horse for courses, the first lads go there with the intent to keep it tight and make the oppo tired, the latter lot is where the attacking and actual goal threat comes into play.

What we're doing at the minute is burning through our better players, going for gaps or exploits which don't yet exist, or the whole side is not good enough to create and convert, to make the most of that, so we need to kill some time out of the game. It's easier to kill time out of the game early in the game, than it is in the latter when players are getting tired, and the opposition notice the clock going down so are more likely to make changes/ adaptations themselves. The first 30 mins of most games is just sussing out opponents, let them suss us out doing something which is effectively a smoke screen.

The problem is because we're going behind, and we're going behind because we're playing too slack, trying to do too much, too quick, at a time which does not suit our squad. We're recovering most of the second halfs very well, but the problems all stem from us giving away soft goals or chances before that happens. Cut that out, and the task for the second half is easier. In fact it's not easier, it's just the same task, of scoring a goal, but that goal gets you 3 points instead of one or none.

Structure the game so that we're not going after strong or expected mid table or higher teams at all first half, it's quite easy to just kill a game by not over committing, or not being too progressive. Even if it means just lumping balls into channels to waste oppo energy (and that of our players we're going to sub), or moving play left and right and backwards if need be, just hold the ball and don't look to create unless it's obviously on.
 
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pretty? tip tap, put the ball out?
Possession football.
SWFC didn't look close to breaking it down, but as soon as we tried move into the final 3rd we lacked quality to make a movement to make space for yourself/create space for a colleague, we lacked quality to receive the ball in tight situations & play it to a colleague.
nb I had to leave at halftime & didn't see the 2nd at all, which was apparently much better for us but still without that cutting edge.
 
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