The tories weaponising ULEZ

[jam69]

With the help of their mates in the MSM , using outright lies to herd the sheep.

 

[JM14]

Results in Uxbridge showed how much of an issue it is and they are all over it since that. Conveniently forgetting a Conservative mayor first introduced it

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

I have not followed it too much but is it not hitting the poorest who can't afford new cars?

 

[motownjunk]

I have not followed it too much but is it not hitting the poorest who can't afford new cars?

the poorest can't afford a car at all and would be using public transport.

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

the poorest can't afford a car at all and would be using public transport.

Lots of people who don't have a lot of money still have a car.

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

Lots of people who don't have a lot of money still have a car.

The poorest don't though, that's what you suggested.

 

[Ingleby_Flash]

The car needs to be more than 13 years old to have to pay. HMRC have said you can offset the cost if it’s a business use. That being the case it probably affects a relatively small number of people. I suspect it’s the Westminster bubble projecting their local squabbles onto the rest of the country - again.

 

[ThePrisoner]

£12 a day? About the same as a pint in that there Lahndahn.

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

The poorest don't though, that's what you suggested.

I'm not interested in point scoring.
People are struggling. This is something that is going to hit a lot of people hard. Coming up with an environmental policy which does not disproportionately affect those who are least well off is a difficult circle to square. And starmer seems to be absolutely doing his nut at khan because this looks like it will lose him votes. And starmer is all about the votes.

 

[motownjunk]

I'm not interested in point scoring.
People are struggling. This is something that is going to hit a lot of people hard. Coming up with an environmental policy which does not disproportionately affect those who are least well off is a difficult circle to square. And starmer seems to be absolutely doing his nut at khan because this looks like it will lose him votes. And starmer is all about the votes.

I am not either just stating a fact. This will hit some business and lower middle classes the hardest, the ones with older diesel cars and vans. And as pointed out by someone earlier this was originally a Conservative policy and its introduction was a condition of the TfL bail out given out by this governement.

 

[Norfolkred1]

Does that include Heathrow. How are going to police fines for those on holiday with a hire car in the greater Landon area. Will they get a bill prior to departure or get away with it.

 

[Norfolkred1]

A lot of cloned cars methinks.

 

[clay]

Couldn't give a flying **** about it. It's a local council issue, about as newsworthy as whether my bins get collected on time. But because it's affecting the London commuter belt where journalists live, it's national news every flipping day.

 

[The_Lizards_Jumpers]

Lots of people who don't have a lot of money still have a car.

Often not in London though, where public transport is a far better and cheaper option than owning a 12 or 13 year old car.

 

[The_Lizards_Jumpers]

Does that include Heathrow. How are going to police fines for those on holiday with a hire car in the greater Landon area. Will they get a bill prior to departure or get away with it.

I'm guessing almost all hire cars will be exempt, but this lack of critical thinking is what the tories are happy to exploit.

 

[BoroMart]

People are struggling. This is something that is going to hit a lot of people hard.

But to be fair you have to offset with councils are struggling, and have to raise money because this Tory government massively reduced funding. Poor people rely on council funded services, something has to give

 

[Keelo]

Imperial College London, globally renowned experts in air quality research, have looked at the health burden of air pollution in London. Their research found that in 2019, toxic air contributed to the premature deaths of around 4,000 Londoners.

seems like a complete no brainer to me..Power to the Mayor. I have grandkids living in London...Fck the naysayers

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

Often not in London though, where public transport is a far better and cheaper option than owning a 12 or 13 year old car.

There are plenty of people who use cars and don't have a lot of cash though. Some of my mates are musicians who rely on their cars for work. They certainly aren't rolling in it. Rents are crazy at the moment also.

 

[London_Boro]

I'm guessing almost all hire cars will be exempt, but this lack of critical thinking is what the tories are happy to exploit.

Absolutely. All hire cars will be ULEZ compliant. There's no hire cars I've ever seem more than a few years old.

 

[motownjunk]

When polled in 2019 about 80% of londoners were in favour of ULEZ. How many people will this affect? How many people are driving round in 17-18 year old petrol cars and 8-9 year old diesel cars?