The poor kid killed by a dog

Grrreds said:
Look at me, I'm dead hard and I've got a dead hard dog.
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Or

Look at me, I'm dead soft so I've got a dead hard dog

In other words, there are probably many vulnerable people, or people who feel threatened or have been threatened in the past, who have acquired such a dog in order to make them feel safe.
 
Randy said:
I went digging around the internet earlier and couldn't find any cases of cats killing kids.

Therefore I've come to the conclusion that's cats are fine and dogs are bad. Unless you own a poodle or one of those little rat dogs that tiktok influencers keep in their handbags.
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You didn't see my earlier post about chiuahas being responsible for 2 deaths since 2015 in the USA.
 
Randy said:
I went digging around the internet earlier and couldn't find any cases of cats killing kids.

Therefore I've come to the conclusion that's cats are fine and dogs are bad. Unless you own a poodle or one of those little rat dogs that tiktok influencers keep in their handbags.
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Mind my Maine Coon can be a bit fierce - it's only attention seeking but he's a bit of a handful at times.
 
Muttley said:
No mate, the reason they ban "breeds" is to be seen to be doing something. As I explained in my post the concept of a "breed" is a false construct. Banning "breeds" is just politicians being politicians.
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Bull mastiffs, pit bulls, Staffies and American Bulldogs all over the list. Nothing false about it.
I really don't know why anybody would want one.

List of fatal dog attacks in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

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Muttley said:
No mate, the reason they ban "breeds" is to be seen to be doing something. As I explained in my post the concept of a "breed" is a false construct. Banning "breeds" is just politicians being politicians.
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All dogs belong to the same species but you cannot deny there are different breeds. These breeds have different characteristics to one another, albeit individuals will differ as well.
 
Randy said:
I went digging around the internet earlier and couldn't find any cases of cats killing kids.

Therefore I've come to the conclusion that's cats are fine and dogs are bad. Unless you own a poodle or one of those little rat dogs that tiktok influencers keep in their handbags.
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I'm sure I read somewhere the only reason cats don't kill us is they know they can't because of our size, any other animal that they can overpower and kill, most of them will, it is such a natural instinct in them. So if we crossbreed them big enough, eventually they might.
 
Caesium137 said:
I'm sure I read somewhere the only reason cats don't kill us is they know they can't because of our size, any other animal that they can overpower and kill, most of them will, it is such a natural instinct in them. So if we crossbreed them big enough, eventually they might.
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Like a tiger or a lion.. You are right but a cat won't usually kill the family it lives with as they don't do that in the wild, mostly the same with dogs, with one important discrepancy.
 
Caesium137 said:
I'm sure I read somewhere the only reason cats don't kill us is they know they can't because of our size, any other animal that they can overpower and kill, most of them will, it is such a natural instinct in them. So if we crossbreed them big enough, eventually they might.
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I mean from personal experience my cat is stupid although in the summer months he occasionally brings home field mouse, sometimes dead, sometimes alive.

Reminds me of that old milk advert asking us to imagine a world where cats had opposable thumbs. We'd all be scuppered.
 
Randy said:
I mean from personal experience my cat is stupid although in the summer months he occasionally brings home field mouse, sometimes dead, sometimes alive.

Reminds me of that old milk advert asking us to imagine a world where cats had opposable thumbs. We'd all be scuppered.
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If they wanted to rule the world they should have evolved quicker.
 
Poor kid. There will be the usual outcry, something might get done and the guilty will be punished. Then it will all die down. Then next time a dog bites someone and it's threatened with being put down there'll be another outcry along the lines that it's a harmless pooch that wouldn't hurt a fly. Repeat ad nauseum (literally). This f##king country! :mad:
 
My daughter when she was just under a year was pounced on by a friends German shepherd, I walked in to find the dog on top of her bouncer growling and looked like he was biting her and she was screaming, the dog was actually trying to pull her socks off playing with her and didn't hurt her whatsoever but just that experience alone really frightened me having my children around dogs.
 
This story is horrifying. Comes down to the owners, sadly there are far too many clowns raising dogs badly or intentionally bringing them up so they're aggressive and attack anything. Can barely read any of the reports on this as it's too upsetting. Hear of this kind of thing far too often though, idiots being so irresponsible with their dogs.

I was walking my hound the other day, he's only a small Bichon Frise .. there was a lad with an alsatian cross-type, it bolted off away from him as he wasn't using a lead and chased me right across the field, trying to snap at mine as I held him off the ground or he'd have been toast. Lost it with the lad telling him to get his dog under control and he seemed to find it amusing. That genuinely terrified me as I've always been wary of other dogs when I'm in certain areas worried they'll attack mine, and thought that was going to be it.

My dog thinks he can take on anything, so was yelling at the alsatian as he tried to bite my arm off :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: luckily, I got out of it ...
 
I agree about the owners, for sure its the main cause of a dog being aggresive.
We have a Pug in the village that thinks it's Rocky and attacks anything and everything
Has had a go at my two three times. The owner always says 'he's not normally like that'

After the first and second time I asked him to keep the dog on a lead.
After the thrid time I picked it up and hoyed it.
Told the bloke next time I'm gonna boot the dog and then give you a good shoeing after that.

The dogs on a lead now.
 
Dogs might be aggressive to other dogs because they have been attacked previously it not always the owners fault. However its the owners responsibility to make sure its on a lead if it has any aggressive tendencies. I certainly wouldnt buy an adult dog off another person without knowing the whole history and personality and whether its been mistreated. At least if you get a rescue, the centres have a very good idea of the dogs personality.

When i am walking my dogs I find the worst for aggression are these little terriors types who try and fight anything on four legs probably because they are intimidated or frightened i guess its a case of little dog syndrome.
 
Glover_elbow said:
Dogs might be aggressive to other dogs because they have been attacked previously it not always the owners fault. However its the owners responsibility to make sure its on a lead if it has any aggressive tendencies. I certainly wouldnt buy an adult dog off another person without knowing the whole history and personality and whether its been mistreated. At least if you get a rescue, the centres have a very good idea of the dogs personality.

When i am walking my dogs I find the worst for aggression are these little terriors types who try and fight anything on four legs probably because they are intimidated or frightened i guess its a case of little dog syndrome.
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I know what you mean about smaller dogs, like. I tend to come across quite a few like that .. mine doesn't have 'small dog syndrome' but if anything runs at him or seems threatening he can lose his rag :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

As you say if a dog has a tendency to lash out or be aggressive in general the owner should always have it on a lead, but I find too often that is not the case.
 
3 things dictate how dangerous a dog is. The obvious one is size. The bigger a dog the less time it takes to do real damage and the harder it is to intervene.
The second thing is it's up bringing. How well trained is it and more importantly was it properly socialised as a pup. Is it encouraged to be aggressive.
The third factor is its prey instinct. All dogs have it, that's why they chase a ball. Some have been specifically bred to maintain a strong prey instinct. Terriers fall into this category as do ridge backs, greyhounds and mastiffs. Any breed of dog can have a strong prey instinct but certain breeds are more likely.

This is why terriers are snappy its not a little dog syndrome its they were bred to maintain that instinct for hunting.

Any dog can be gentle and any dog can be aggressive. Upbringing is the single biggest factor in how their prey instinct develops.
 
zzzzz said:
Bull mastiffs, pit bulls, Staffies and American Bulldogs all over the list. Nothing false about it.
I really don't know why anybody would want one.

List of fatal dog attacks in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

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I understand where your coming from but up & down the country dogs attack people the difference with the dogs listed is how powerful they are & when they do attack its never going to end well.
Would it surprise you to know that the dachshund is the most aggressive dog breed there is followed by jack Russells & most small dogs they bite or attack more people than any other dog.
If you compare them the dogs listed don't attack people as often but because of the damage they can do its reported more.
Just for the record I'm not condoning anything here I myself had an American bulldog & he was the soppiest thing you could come across. I am very much in the owners need to take responsibility camp though when things like this happen the owner should be prosecuted to me its the same as having a gun in the house.
I feel so sorry for the boy & his family its a horrible way to go I wouldn't wish it on anyone
 
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