The end?

That is all well and good, but the war crimes commited by Russian " citizens" against the Ukrainian population will not be easily forgotton. In towns and villages, its not just the politicians . It will take decades to forgive .
Unfortunately you are right and now the ordinary people have been sent into battle against each other the war mongering politicians setting the west v east battle lines will have no difficulty stoking things up again when it suits. My view is this conflict is still nowhere near the end, maybe just the end of the first phase.
 
Saw an article that supposedly showed a picture of Putin . Pretty much the same appearance but could tell instantly from the eyes it wasn’t Putin . Putin has the puffy face at the moment from steroids, his double didn’t seem to have that

It seems he actually does have body doubles
 
Saw an article that supposedly showed a picture of Putin . Pretty much the same appearance but could tell instantly from the eyes it wasn’t Putin . Putin has the puffy face at the moment from steroids, his double didn’t seem to have that

It seems he actually does have body doubles

Not steroids. As mentioned upthread, he has been got at with radioactive isotopes and is extremely ill. He hasn't been see since the last meeting of the security council, where he was incoherent and throwing up. This is why the troika of Lavrov, Peskov and Shoigu are running things and why Putin is not at the G20 on Turesday.

Regarding the G20, it was thought that Lavrov would meet with Blinken and Kuleba. This may now happen, but not at first.
The West/Ukraine will be represented in direct negotiations by Carl Bildt, who has a successful history of dealing with Lavrov (Balkans).

Unfortunately for us, this means that our source can't say as much any more as he's on the plane to Bali with the delegation and is directly involved with negotiations.

This was as much of a surprise to me as it will be "do me a favour" for some of you reading this. But I know it to be true. It's a pain in the **** for me if I'm honest... but if it means an end to all of this, then that inconvenience is nada.

I could add a bit more about who the real power brokers are behind this move (it doesn't take much digging) but it would set all kinds of conspiracy theorist off doing loop the loops.
 
Haha, he has landed (He was on the lash before he got called to vamoos :ROFLMAO:)

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I am to old for this ****...

A long flight while sobering up, becoming hungover is a fair nightmare.
And then tired and hungover give a presentetion on the military status of Russia is no fun.

For those expecting a huge breakthrough tomorrow curb your horses.
Tomorrow is just about giving the initial statements, both sides will obviously be maximalist.
Difference is that the West and Ukraine has no intention of backing down from the maximalist position due to having the position of strength.
The Russian army is after all teetering now on the brink of total collapse.

After that, baring any Russian surprises like: Stop beating us we are going home, there will be just the minutia of setting a roadmap, and that is when I bow out and go home.
The negotiations will take weeks after all, and may not even be finished due to Ukraine crushing Russia.
After all, these are not peace negotiation, these are negotiations of terms of surrender, and about restitution.
Lavrov will obviously try to push it into a peace negotiation to try to get something out of it all for Russia. Fat chance.

My only role in all of this is to sit and listen in, and fill in any needed details from a military standpoint to the negotiator.
I am just a little runt in the bigger scheme of things.

Ukraine
Nothing much new to tell, more than that Russia is continuing to pull out troops from south of the Dnipro to reinforce the ever more stupendous defence line on the border of Crimea.

I would keep my eye out for news about Kinburn Spit, I wrote about it a couple of weeks ago, and it is definitely on the agenda to take it.
It would give Ukraine a much needed possibility for a pincer manouvre later on.

Vuhledar front is also as ever very interesting. It will be strengthened in about a week with troops from Kherson, and especially large amounts of artillery that will be transfered.

Surovikin is currently in flames with anger at the colonel who damaged the Nova Kakhovka dam. There is some sort of very limited ceasefire at both sides of the dam while the Ukrainians try to repair the damage.
What made Surovikin so angry is that there is a risk that a sluice gate breaks, and that would obviously make Crimea incredibly water-deprived again.

The water will though be cut off sooner or later as Ukraine retakes the other side of the river. And that will probably come in a few weeks time.

But, in general we can expect a fairly quiet week, even the Ukrainians need a bit of rest.
And, it is likely that there will be a final massive wave of missiles and drones from Russia as an answer to losing Kherson.
I do not think it will cause as much damage as the previous ones due to the onslaught of air defence that Ukraine has received in the last couple of weeks. On top of that Russia is starting to run out of stuff to fire at Ukraine.

Russias tank losses are now at a level that it is uncertain if they have enough left to defend the two Crimean land bridges.
Personally I would by now not even attempt holding it.
Because Ukraine will be able to cut the Kersh Bridge, and then a quarter of a million men will be without food, water, and other supplies.

For me the only question is when will the Russian army collapse?
According to my calculations that will happen at any time one month to six months into the future. No earlier, no later.
Due to the extreme lack of heavy equipment and supplies there is a frontheavy component to this, that is why I have 24th of December as my most favoured day.

Right now the Russian army is like a hen that has been beheaded, it is still running about looking like it is alive, but it has been dead for quite some time. All we are doing now is to pinpoint the moment that the headless hen falls down.

Now, naptime."
 
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Guardian reporting - Associated Press have a quick snap to say that according to Indonesian officials, Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov was taken to hospital after arriving for the G20 summit in Bali. FFS has he been poisoned maybe upset someone back home
 
Guardian reporting - Associated Press have a quick snap to say that according to Indonesian officials, Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov was taken to hospital after arriving for the G20 summit in Bali. FFS has he been poisoned maybe upset someone back home

Our man in Bali says heart attack. He literally saw Bildt and collapsed. He doesn't know what is going to happen now.
 
russians saying fake news.....

Well this is what our man in the room had to say just now.

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One learns new **** every day now...

Lavrov literally saw Carl Bildt, grabbed his chest, and fell down in a heart attack.
Russians are frantically calling Soyghurt and Peskov trying to get instructions.
All is a mess here.
Feck knows what will happen.
And no, he was not poisoned.
At least not in any way known to western science.

Unless the Russians can get someone else here with command authority this meeting is a write off."

He just added via messenger that Lavrov is in the cardiac ward.
 
Well this is what our man in the room had to say just now.

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One learns new **** every day now...

Lavrov literally saw Carl Bildt, grabbed his chest, and fell down in a heart attack.
Russians are frantically calling Soyghurt and Peskov trying to get instructions.
All is a mess here.
Feck knows what will happen.
And no, he was not poisoned.
At least not in any way known to western science.

Unless the Russians can get someone else here with command authority this meeting is a write off."

He just added via messenger that Lavrov is in the cardiac ward.
How does your man know he wasn't poisoned when it has literally just happened?
 
How does your man know he wasn't poisoned when it has literally just happened?

I presume because he can spot the symptoms of a heart attack over poisoning ... and the fact that he was taken directly to the cardiac ward.

Also ... as just pointed out to me when I asked your question, it is well known that he has a heart problem and should have had surgery months ago.

He has also just said that the Russian delegation are not calling Putin, but Peskov and Shoigu.
 
Latest is that it looks like he will be fine. Not a full blown heart attack.

I wondered if he was faking it. Mate doesn't think so. (It's known that he has a faulty valve in his heart .... this may have played up).

Edit, he is now back at G20. Not looking too cracky. No word on whether the planned meetings will go ahead.
 
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I can't see Ukraine trying for Crimea until the rest of Ukraine is liberated.

It's heavily defended, with a population of 2 million people, and sadly there'll be a sizeable part of that population that does genuinely want to be Russian.
It's not like most of the places they've liberated so far, there'll probably be major partisan civilian support for the occupation.

It would surely take a huge military effort to retake it, with many casualties, I expect they'll focus on Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk and Luhansk first.
The latter two will be trouble enough.

Hopefully they are able to reclaim all territories, but I think Crimea is by far the most likely to be sacrificed in a peace deal.
It's probably the only region of Ukraine that might genuinely have voted to join Russia in a free and fair referendum before the initial invasion in 2014.

I suppose it could be a feint, a diversion, to use up and tie down already depleted Russian forces, but the crossing and incursion onto the Kilburn peninsula is about threatening Crimea. It is all it can be. It wouldn't surprise me if there was another and more major attack in the east, because this divides the Russians in two and allows Ukraine to threaten Donbas or Crimea from the flanks or strike south to Mariupol. There are strategic and logistical targets and symbolic ones. Ukraine can pick whichever they want, whichever is most achievable. I wonder how much of a factor the winter will be? Ukraine is better equipped, but the winter favours defence over attack traditionally.
 
As an amateur strategist the opportunity to drive south from Zaporizhzhia towards Tokmak and the coast looks inviting to me. Of course, I don't know the terrain and it might not be feasible, but it would almost completely cut-off the Russian forces in Crimea, leaving them dependent on supplies over the damaged Krymsky bridge and with their water supplies controlled by the Ukrainians they could make it impossible to hold Crimea.

On the subject of winter warfare, what chance would the Russian conscripts have of receiving decent winter clothing and adequate rations? Poor sods.
 
As an amateur strategist the opportunity to drive south from Zaporizhzhia towards Tokmak and the coast looks inviting to me. Of course, I don't know the terrain and it might not be feasible, but it would almost completely cut-off the Russian forces in Crimea, leaving them dependent on supplies over the damaged Krymsky bridge and with their water supplies controlled by the Ukrainians they could make it impossible to hold Crimea.

On the subject of winter warfare, what chance would the Russian conscripts have of receiving decent winter clothing and adequate rations? Poor sods.

Indeed.

The dangers in creating salients are that you can be counter attacked and cut off yourself if the logistics aren't in your favour, but Russia doesn't seem to have the advantage in numbers and equipment for that to be a worry. Nor the training. If the winter allows, it will surely be Ukraine's aim to create or suggest numerous pincer movements to panic the Russian's to abandon defensive position after defensive position as much as they can while they are not well prepared.
 
Indeed.

The dangers in creating salients are that you can be counter attacked and cut off yourself if the logistics aren't in your favour, but Russia doesn't seem to have the advantage in numbers and equipment for that to be a worry. Nor the training. If the winter allows, it will surely be Ukraine's aim to create or suggest numerous pincer movements to panic the Russian's to abandon defensive position after defensive position as much as they can while they are not well prepared.

It's yet to pan out where the Russian forces have retreated to. Surovikin had ordered them all back into Crimea. Waiting on updates on that front (but, as he's in a different time zone now, not sure when the next will be).

Re. Winter ... our man has said that it will favour Ukrainian forces because they are well supplied and their heavy vehicles will be able to advance more quickly on frozen ground. He thinks many Russian soldiers will freeze to death.
 
It's yet to pan out where the Russian forces have retreated to. Surovikin had ordered them all back into Crimea. Waiting on updates on that front (but, as he's in a different time zone now, not sure when the next will be).

Re. Winter ... our man has said that it will favour Ukrainian forces because they are well supplied and their heavy vehicles will be able to advance more quickly on frozen ground. He thinks many Russian soldiers will freeze to death.
They were supposedly digging in outside Melitopol yesterday
Yes I've heard a few speculate about Russian soldiers unfortunately freezing to death
 
Think I read somewhere, probably here, that Ukraine has artillery with much better range than the Russians.
Not looking good for them.
 
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