Borothruandthru
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Great band saw them at Westfield centre.
Bobby Valentino on fiddle was awesome
Bobby Valentino on fiddle was awesome
The end?
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Borothruandthru
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Sorry Westgate social club, big difference
Hap
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There's no glory in any of it - only suffering.
There are too many sensationalist reels and bits of footage. I try not to watch any of it. I'll be so glad when this is over.
Girkin with some interesting insight into one element of the power struggle. It also, implicitly adds weight to the idea that Putin is "gone".
Druss_The_Legend
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This is the exiled opposition leader from Belarus. Plenty of rumours doing the rounds that uncle Luka is brown bread or very seriously ill with quite a few bits about possible poisoning from Russia, also plenty of 'rebel talk' on Belarus leaning towards the EU and NATO rather than Russia if/when it is confirmed Luka is gone(I know non of this is new info as most was said by BoroLad, I just wanted to share what I have seen to confirm Borolads post).
Follow Belarus quite a bit and lukaschenko has been having back problems when he attended may 9th
If Russia have sadly done something , all it will do is sadly mean Belarus is going to be annexed by Russia . The Belarusians do not have the army and means to defend themselves against the Russian army . Worry is Putin is going to force them into the war too
If Russia have sadly done something , all it will do is sadly mean Belarus is going to be annexed by Russia . The Belarusians do not have the army and means to defend themselves against the Russian army . Worry is Putin is going to force them into the war too
Fattyfoggon
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from yesterday some lad Borolad shared going through some options in Belarus
Druss_The_Legend
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I believe It's the same fella who does the YouTube videos which BoroLad has also shared(the American fella who winds up his daughters). Very informative videos done by a bloke who comes across very knowledgeable but likeable as well.
The problem with the scenarios listed there is if the Russians have poisoned him (we don’t even know fully how unwell he is yet either) they will have already made arrangements in place for someone to succeed him if they have . The Russian army has performed **** but they will have thought this out before moving
The problem for Belarus is :
-it’s military is very weak , it’s been massively underfunded
- the people who would try causing an uprising in Belarus if Russia moved are either in jail or had to flee the country
- support for russia has always been higher than it has been in Ukraine
Resistance will be nowhere as high in Belarus as Ukraine . I would love Belarus to become democratic and independent but they are sadly staring annexation in the face
Jan_Aage_Fjortoft
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Is there anywhere online that shows the constitution thing about Belarus / Russia if one of them dies? Can't seem to find anything showing that it's a thing.
He is very similar to our man. Experienced military veteran who has worked as an analyst. Our man is still doing the job (under duress btw ... he tried to resign his commission but was refused).
Druss_The_Legend
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Yeah I have seen in some of his videos or tweets he saw active service in Iraq, I have also seen tweets where he has said his heart is telling him that he wants to go out and help in Ukraine, but his mind(and body) is telling him he would be an hindrance on the battlefield.
I get what he is saying as my Grandad who I was very close to was a 22 year career soldier and finished as a sergeant major in the Green Howard's he left the army in 1982(2 years before I was born) but the army never left him. It's from him I got my interest in the military as a kid as I got older I got more and more interested in military history(including tactics and weapons).
Well, who saw this coming?
"Prigozhin the Ukrainian Asset
Washington Post in one of their less bright moments wrote an article claiming a relationship between him and the security forces of Ukraine.
By publishing that article they blew up a 3 month long intelligence operation and probably caused thousands of lives lost on both sides.
The plan was that Wagner would pull out of Bakhmut in a few days, leaving a giant arsed hole in the middle, and he has also given numerous target solutions for Russian military commanders in Donbas.
The reciprocal part would be that he would not be prosecuted by Ukraine, and could do whatever the **** he wished in Russia, or other places.
Basically, he would have become my problem in Africa, and I had plans for that.
All of it is now down the ***** due to americans being unable to ever shut the **** up... and their media being idiots.
To say that I am fuming is an understatement.
Strelkov fired directly from the hip today and named publicly Prigozhin's 3 accomplices in the Presidential staff.
This makes me suspect that this was leaked by the Russians themselves as a part of their internal power struggle.
The 3 named are Kiriyenko, the head of the presidential staff and the billionaires Mikhail and Yury Kovalchuk.
Kiriyenko is the closest associate of Putin (dead or alive) and the Kovalchuks are basically sitting on half of Putin's wealth since they are his personal bankers.
Strelkov openly going for these 3 men is just "out there", this means that FSB is openly going for the direct circle around Putin at this point in time.
Interestingly enough we now know that Strelkov is still on the payrolls of the FSB, paygrade as a general.
What is even more interesting is that his file gives both Strelkov and Girkin as aliases, but his real name is scrubbed out on orders of Bortnikov's predecessor.
In other words, not even FSB know who the heck he really is any longer.
Uncle Luka
The head of the KGB (Belarus never changed the nomenclature) has openly stated that there will be an attempt to destabilize the country in the next few days, and told the Belarusian people to be ready for it.
This could obviously mean several things, but if it was a public uprising they worried about they would send out the special police forces preemtively, this has not happened.
Instead the amount of army personal quadrupled, same with KGB forces.
Paired with the open message to the population seems more like a warning that it is Russia that would create the problem for "all Belarusians".
There has also been a statement of sorts about Lukashenka to the public.
It says that he was rushed from Moscow with massive organ failures and systemic collapse and that he is being treated for this in Belarus.
A note here, the thing on his hand is a standard protective glove used when there is an intravenous line inserted.
Obviously this is not food poisoning or some flu, instead it is something more serious, regardless if it is poisoning with Novichok/Polonium or a disease.
Bakhmut
Russia is now trying to defend and the mass exodus has stopped on the Northern and Southern flanks.
The commander, a two-star general, and four colonels, all responsible for Bakhmut, has been killed in missile attacks by Ukraine.
This pretty much led to Prigozhin becoming the de facto commander for the time being in the Bakhmut area.
He in turn sent reinforcements North and South to act as barrier guards killing any Russian army soldiers trying to abandon post.
Regardless Ukraine is still pushing forward piece by piece, especially on the Northern side.
What is new is that due to Prigozhin sending wagnerites as barrier guards Ukraine was able to break through inside Bakhmut and push Wagner south two roads worth on the southern side.
Amount of Russians
UK Intelligence released a report that is basically shattering for Russia.
They have counted the Russian soldiers in frontline, or frontline ready reserves.
Russia currently has roughly 200 000 soldiers inside of Ukraine, this means that the situation is 1:6 in total, and 1:3 in regards of frontline units and reserves in favour of Ukraine.
Equipment is similar in proportion, or even worse for Russia.
Red Line
Yesterday someone in the Russian command had enough with the talk about red lines and nukes in Russian propaganda.
So, that someone (probably both FSB and Army Command) forced Margarita Simonyan to officially dispute all talk about red lines as the fevered imagination of the propagandists.
The rest toed the line immediately.
The red line exists, it is extremely well known by all parties.
It has been communicated and discussed between all nuclear powers.
Russia has clearly communicated both informally and officially by both Peskov, Putin (previously) and Shoygu.
And that is that Russia will exactly follow their nuclear doctrine as agreed originally between the 5 official nuclear powers.
All 5 of them have ratified the same exact wordings in The Nuclear Power's Protocol.
So, let me translate and quote directly what it states:
The Communist Republics of the Soviet Union will only use nuclear weapons in case of imminent threat to the existence of the Soviet Union".
The interpretation has been clarified by the Russians as follows:
"Until the central power of the Federative Republics of Russian Union is threatened Russia will not use nuclear weapons".
In other words, unless Ukraine tries to take Moscow nothing will happen.
Simonyan was even forced to note that attacks on Russia was not enough to cross a red line, it was quite implicit that even if Ukraine temporarily takes areas of Russia it would not be crossing any red line, refusing to hand them back would though be something else in the end, Helsinki Agreement and all."
"Prigozhin the Ukrainian Asset
Washington Post in one of their less bright moments wrote an article claiming a relationship between him and the security forces of Ukraine.
By publishing that article they blew up a 3 month long intelligence operation and probably caused thousands of lives lost on both sides.
The plan was that Wagner would pull out of Bakhmut in a few days, leaving a giant arsed hole in the middle, and he has also given numerous target solutions for Russian military commanders in Donbas.
The reciprocal part would be that he would not be prosecuted by Ukraine, and could do whatever the **** he wished in Russia, or other places.
Basically, he would have become my problem in Africa, and I had plans for that.
All of it is now down the ***** due to americans being unable to ever shut the **** up... and their media being idiots.
To say that I am fuming is an understatement.
Strelkov fired directly from the hip today and named publicly Prigozhin's 3 accomplices in the Presidential staff.
This makes me suspect that this was leaked by the Russians themselves as a part of their internal power struggle.
The 3 named are Kiriyenko, the head of the presidential staff and the billionaires Mikhail and Yury Kovalchuk.
Kiriyenko is the closest associate of Putin (dead or alive) and the Kovalchuks are basically sitting on half of Putin's wealth since they are his personal bankers.
Strelkov openly going for these 3 men is just "out there", this means that FSB is openly going for the direct circle around Putin at this point in time.
Interestingly enough we now know that Strelkov is still on the payrolls of the FSB, paygrade as a general.
What is even more interesting is that his file gives both Strelkov and Girkin as aliases, but his real name is scrubbed out on orders of Bortnikov's predecessor.
In other words, not even FSB know who the heck he really is any longer.
Uncle Luka
The head of the KGB (Belarus never changed the nomenclature) has openly stated that there will be an attempt to destabilize the country in the next few days, and told the Belarusian people to be ready for it.
This could obviously mean several things, but if it was a public uprising they worried about they would send out the special police forces preemtively, this has not happened.
Instead the amount of army personal quadrupled, same with KGB forces.
Paired with the open message to the population seems more like a warning that it is Russia that would create the problem for "all Belarusians".
There has also been a statement of sorts about Lukashenka to the public.
It says that he was rushed from Moscow with massive organ failures and systemic collapse and that he is being treated for this in Belarus.
A note here, the thing on his hand is a standard protective glove used when there is an intravenous line inserted.
Obviously this is not food poisoning or some flu, instead it is something more serious, regardless if it is poisoning with Novichok/Polonium or a disease.
Bakhmut
Russia is now trying to defend and the mass exodus has stopped on the Northern and Southern flanks.
The commander, a two-star general, and four colonels, all responsible for Bakhmut, has been killed in missile attacks by Ukraine.
This pretty much led to Prigozhin becoming the de facto commander for the time being in the Bakhmut area.
He in turn sent reinforcements North and South to act as barrier guards killing any Russian army soldiers trying to abandon post.
Regardless Ukraine is still pushing forward piece by piece, especially on the Northern side.
What is new is that due to Prigozhin sending wagnerites as barrier guards Ukraine was able to break through inside Bakhmut and push Wagner south two roads worth on the southern side.
Amount of Russians
UK Intelligence released a report that is basically shattering for Russia.
They have counted the Russian soldiers in frontline, or frontline ready reserves.
Russia currently has roughly 200 000 soldiers inside of Ukraine, this means that the situation is 1:6 in total, and 1:3 in regards of frontline units and reserves in favour of Ukraine.
Equipment is similar in proportion, or even worse for Russia.
Red Line
Yesterday someone in the Russian command had enough with the talk about red lines and nukes in Russian propaganda.
So, that someone (probably both FSB and Army Command) forced Margarita Simonyan to officially dispute all talk about red lines as the fevered imagination of the propagandists.
The rest toed the line immediately.
The red line exists, it is extremely well known by all parties.
It has been communicated and discussed between all nuclear powers.
Russia has clearly communicated both informally and officially by both Peskov, Putin (previously) and Shoygu.
And that is that Russia will exactly follow their nuclear doctrine as agreed originally between the 5 official nuclear powers.
All 5 of them have ratified the same exact wordings in The Nuclear Power's Protocol.
So, let me translate and quote directly what it states:
The Communist Republics of the Soviet Union will only use nuclear weapons in case of imminent threat to the existence of the Soviet Union".
The interpretation has been clarified by the Russians as follows:
"Until the central power of the Federative Republics of Russian Union is threatened Russia will not use nuclear weapons".
In other words, unless Ukraine tries to take Moscow nothing will happen.
Simonyan was even forced to note that attacks on Russia was not enough to cross a red line, it was quite implicit that even if Ukraine temporarily takes areas of Russia it would not be crossing any red line, refusing to hand them back would though be something else in the end, Helsinki Agreement and all."
Druss_The_Legend
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Any news on the huge explosion that has been doing the rounds on social media.
What I can gather is that some kind of Ukrainian storage facility was hit by drones in a place called Khmelnytskyi I think.
It has been said that a airfield and storage depot has been hit, but as the hours have gone on, the Russian bots started saying 200m worth of ammunition then 500m but with russian propaganda inflation it is are now saying 2.2billion worth of ammo including most of the depleted uranium rounds, modern battle tanks and bradleys and Ukraine are now short of ammo.
What I can gather is that some kind of Ukrainian storage facility was hit by drones in a place called Khmelnytskyi I think.
It has been said that a airfield and storage depot has been hit, but as the hours have gone on, the Russian bots started saying 200m worth of ammunition then 500m but with russian propaganda inflation it is are now saying 2.2billion worth of ammo including most of the depleted uranium rounds, modern battle tanks and bradleys and Ukraine are now short of ammo.
I'm not sure it's new and SecretSqrl addressed the increase in radiation issue yesterday I think, pointing out that maps with radiation levels are available and there was nothing significant. "A sunny day" I think he said. If it is new, then I haven't seen much about it.
Edit. Found it. The thread explains to an extent. Basically Russian troll bots have tried to make it a bigger deal than it was. It was a few days ago.
Edit. Found it. The thread explains to an extent. Basically Russian troll bots have tried to make it a bigger deal than it was. It was a few days ago.
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A good round up here by a reliable voice. He's Estonian, with a military background I believe. He's not as prolific as some of the other vloggers. He doesn't join the dots here between Prigozhin having a poke at Putin and Prigozhin being the project of Putin's Inner Circle. My joining of the dots is that there is no Putin. I personally think that Prigozhin wanted the mines in Ukraine but now sees that he won't get them so is looking for a consolation prize in terms of power and influence. He also know that he could more or less be made stateless (or dead) if the FSB or the Shoigu club assume control in Moscow, and wouldn't be able to enjoy the fruits of his appalling activities in Africa.
Druss_The_Legend
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Busy night for the air defence in Kyiv last night(according to multiple reports).
It's been heavily reported that the Ukrainian air defence managed to take out 6 kinzhal missiles(from what I understand these are the crème de la crème of russian missiles).
It's been heavily reported that the Ukrainian air defence managed to take out 6 kinzhal missiles(from what I understand these are the crème de la crème of russian missiles).
Not a lot got through.
Druss_The_Legend
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Yeah it's unbelievable how effective the Ukrainian air defence is. Apparently most of the damage was caused by debris rather than the actual explosives. This is some achievement considering A year or two ago these kinzhal missiles where being touted as unstoppable by the Russian top brass, even not too long ago when Putin was making his nuclear threats to the west it was these missiles he was mainly talking about.