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Decent_Left

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Mwelolo said:
I would definitely say more wrong than right with the interpretive and speculative stuff but it is what it is.
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The Swedish deep throat oo err, has been right on the direction of travel on this conflict from the start. Fine details like over by Xmas very much like WW2 where from early 1943 Germany couldn’t win so why did they keep fighting.

He is clearly coming from a western tradition of steel rather than blood and from that mindset applies it to the bad guys on the basis that surely this time they must pack it in, which is then confounded by for example Ruzzia emptying its prisons to provide more blood for the frontlines.

It’s a case of when not if, and no one can get that right when the opposition are lunatics.

I have also not seen on this thread any one “enjoying” this conflict but having clearly picked a side posting imagery and passing comment reflecting the unfathomably stupid depths the Ruzzians have sunk to.
 
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Mwelolo

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Decent_Left said:
The Swedish deep throat oo err, has been right on the direction of travel on this conflict from the start. Fine details like over by Xmas very much like WW2 where from early 1943 Germany couldn’t win so why did they keep fighting.

He is clearly coming from a western tradition of steel rather than blood and from that mindset applies it to the bad guys on the basis that surely this time they must pack it in, which is then confounded by for example Ruzzia emptying its prisons to provide more blood for the frontlines.

It’s a case of when not if, and no one can get that right when the opposition are lunatics.

I have also not seen on this thread any one “enjoying” this conflict but having clearly picked a side posting imagery and passing comment reflecting the unfathomably stupid depths the Ruzzians have sunk to.
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Enemies in conflicts do that, they react and adapt.

Were the Russians ever really going to just give up?

If it goes on long enough I think they’ll fully mobilise.
 
borolad259

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Mwelolo said:
I don’t think there has ever been any evidence that he was dead
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No, there wasn't. There was only that he hasn't actually been seen for months and was very sick then. But the weird thing is that of the three Putins out and about yesterday, the one that tripped all the facial recognition alarms was the one driving around Mariupol. Not confirmed as him, but apparently (I'm told) a high probability according to the AI. Maybe he suddenly doesn't give a hoot about personal security. Anyway, nothing would surprise me.
 
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Rauko

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borolad259 said:
No, there wasn't. There was only that he hasn't actually been seen for months and was very sick then. But the weird thing is that of the three Putins out and about yesterday, the one that tripped all the facial recognition alarms was the one driving around Mariupol. Not confirmed as him, but apparently (I'm told) a high probability according to the AI. Maybe he suddenly doesn't give a hoot about personal security. Anyway, nothing would surprise me.
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I noticed on the videos released yesterday of Putin in Crimea / Mariupol that he wasn't walking around with his usual stiff right arm that much ..

Putins stiff arm walking ..


"Putin" Yesterday (most notable at about 50 second mark) .. can see people in the comments have noticed it too ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub20UrFH0Ak
 
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Decent_Left

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Mwelolo said:
Enemies in conflicts do that, they react and adapt.

Were the Russians ever really going to just give up?

If it goes on long enough I think they’ll fully mobilise.
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It’s the problem of trying to apply rational actor thinking on Ruzzia. They have lost.

Emptying prisons is probably on no one’s list of adaptations so on Ukraine has to go.

Yes, a rational Russia would have given up by now. It’s not rational it’s a huge land mass controlled by a small bunch of lunatics

Escalation of full mobilisation by Ruzzia will possibly have a greater impact internally on Ruzzia itself with unrest and whatnot and if they do fully mobilise the west will up it’s continuing support to Ukraine and Ruzzia will continue to have already lost, but will lose more badly.
 
borolad259

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Ingleby_Flash said:
Saw the vid of him driving round Mariupol. Heff off, normal roads and traffic, no motorcade, no blocked roads, street lights. Do me a favour.
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Yeah, update. It wasn't him. So, in Crimea there was limping spine issue Putin and energetic younger Putin. I Mariupol another, different double. Maybe they should send all of them to meet Xi. That would knock him off balance a bit.
 
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borolad259 said:
Yeah, update. It wasn't him. So, in Crimea there was limping spine issue Putin and energetic younger Putin. I Mariupol another, different double. Maybe they should send all of them to meet Xi. That would knock him off balance a bit.
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it's crazy. Did they broadcast all of these in short order? He can't be everywhere.
 
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Mwelolo

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borolad259 said:
Yeah, update. It wasn't him. So, in Crimea there was limping spine issue Putin and energetic younger Putin. I Mariupol another, different double. Maybe they should send all of them to meet Xi. That would knock him off balance a bit.
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I do not believe they will will send a double out to meet Xi.
 
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Mwelolo

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Decent_Left said:
It’s the problem of trying to apply rational actor thinking on Ruzzia. They have lost.

Emptying prisons is probably on no one’s list of adaptations so on Ukraine has to go.

Yes, a rational Russia would have given up by now. It’s not rational it’s a huge land mass controlled by a small bunch of lunatics

Escalation of full mobilisation by Ruzzia will possibly have a greater impact internally on Ruzzia itselfl with unrest and whatnot and if they do fully mobilise the west will up it’s continuing support to Ukraine and Ruzzia will continue to have already lost, but will lose more badly.
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I’m not suggesting that Russia will ultimately win.

I’m suggesting that Putin’s regime will do all they can to hang on for as long as they can, that can can surely not be a surprise to any sensible person…..
 
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ForssAwakens

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borolad259 said:
No, there wasn't. There was only that he hasn't actually been seen for months and was very sick then. But the weird thing is that of the three Putins out and about yesterday, the one that tripped all the facial recognition alarms was the one driving around Mariupol. Not confirmed as him, but apparently (I'm told) a high probability according to the AI. Maybe he suddenly doesn't give a hoot about personal security. Anyway, nothing would surprise me.
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From the video I seen of him, his face look bloated and some patches of hair missing?
 
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