The difference in our club

Because we weren't talking about Gibson. Gibson gets overall blame/credit for any decision made by him or his staff. We were talking about Scott and he identified Wilder as a suitable candidate when he clearly wasn't so I am questioning his judgement and not proclaiming him as some sort of saviour of the recruitment team.
So both Gibson and Scott made mistakes.

I have no problem with making mistakes, that's life, that's learning, I have a problem not learning from mistakes. and we are not there.

As for saviour of recruitment team, time will tell. What we do know is recruitment has been awful for a decade, and that last season was much better.
 
I think that's exactly what happened. Wilder was in the Wilder-ness in his career, needed to get a good role. We gave him that, under the agreement of it being a head coach not manager. He needed the job and probably wasn't his authentic self in agreeing to that structure. Once the Burnley thing came up, he decided that if we wouldn't release him then he was going to use it to try and renege and gain control over every part of the club he could, thus the problems happened.

Every managerial signing is a gamble, every personality is different, it looked like it would work, but then broke down. Such is life. It's not like Wilder was a failure to the level of Strachan or Woodgate etc.
Agree, though he didn't leave us in a much better position than those two.
 
I'm glad it's going well, and glad that people have confidence.

I'm in no doubt though that if things go wrong next season that people on here will be all over him like a cheap suit.
 
It's already been said but I don't think you can underestimate the importance of having a manager and DoF who are aligned in their ways of working and their philosophy. We now seem to have that with Carrick and Scott.

Wilder describing Forss as a "development player" says it all now when we look back on reflection. If I remember rightly he'd said in an interview that summer recruitment hadn't gone the way he'd hoped. It's no surprise when you consider he wanted us to sign Dwight Gayle, and splash out on that other striker (can't remember his name).
 
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