The Coming Storm - BBC Podcast Series

NorCalBoro said:
As a long time California resident (>25 years), while it makes sense for California to think about breaking off from the rest of the USA I think there is a huge inertia to overcome. People are (quite reasonably) wary of big changes that might have other risks and things people are worried about. Such as: what to do for a currency, will everyone have to reapply for citizenship, how will we police a border, will it be much harder to visit relatives in what is now another country, what will we do about all the US military bases in CA, what will happen to all the federal employees (I am one of them - I work for the US Department of Energy)? I also think that there is a fair amount of concern about what would happen in other states that heavily depend on the support of the wealthier states, either because of personal connections or basic empathy. It is also worth bearing in mind that the individual states have a lot of independent authority - so that California can do a lot of things not approved at the federal level - such as act on climate change, and do not need to leave the republic to do so.
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I think there's also a misconception that CA is entirely blue, and whilst this is true in the large metropolitan areas (LA and the Bay Area) large swathes of the state are actually red such as the central valley and many other inland areas.

I dont actually live in the US anymore (moved back to start a family at the start of the pandemic) and can't claim to understand the complex political situation across the state, or country.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
I think there's also a misconception that CA is entirely blue, and whilst this is true in the large metropolitan areas (LA and the Bay Area) large swathes of the state are actually red such as the central valley and many other inland areas.

I dont actually live in the US anymore (moved back to start a family at the start of the pandemic) and can't claim to understand the complex political situation across the state, or country.
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This is true , there is an argument for CA splitting into two States. Same as NY , only really Buffalo & NYC are really Democratic. Rough spilt at the moment is about 65/45 Republican.
Also , I think you are more likely to see towns splitting up for tax & educational reasons - Local towns and councils have a lot more power here than in the UK.
Finally as the BBC are part of the conspiracy can we really believe this podcast .... :eek:
 
I finished this last week. Well very put together. I think for me one of the most interesting parts of it when they talked about taking a more active role in the local school boards.
Schools in the USA are controlled by the local towns and people pay different tax rates depending upon where they live and a lot of that cost is based on educational stuff.
There has been a big debate here over something called critical race theory. If you google or search YouTube you will be able to see Many very heated debates on the subject and the mask mandate in many school districts.
When people talk about states leaving the United States et cetera I think that the focus really should be on the seismic change on what is happening at the local level.
As said before, I think this podcast is highly recommended and don’t think that stuff like this couldn’t happen in the UK. Maybe not in the same manner but definitely with some concept of different versions of reality and truth
 
buffaloboro said:
Finally as the BBC are part of the conspiracy can we really believe this podcast .... :eek:
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Have you listened to it? Lots of direct quotes and 1st hand interviews.
Are you part of the BBC conspiracy hocus pocus?
And btw can I ask are you a Trump supporter?
 
zzzzz said:
Have you listened to it? Lots of direct quotes and 1st hand interviews.
Are you part of the BBC conspiracy hocus pocus?
And btw can I ask are you a Trump supporter?
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I was taking the pee the clue was in the …&:eek:. Also I just posted that Ijust finished listening to
It…
Also I’m a registered democrat but I’m not sure what that has to do with the podcast ?
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
You could ask the same question about the UK, and the "Boris is doing his best" gang.
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Exactly. Boris is the Uk version of trump. The majority of the English public are essentially thick
US is scary and we’re following the same pattern as the Tories look to lie, take developers donor money and offer friendly policies for them and look to suppress the vote with id required
Just like the republicans in the US

Anything for power
 
Ex Footy Legs said:
US is scary and we’re following the same pattern as the Tories look to lie, take developers donor money and offer friendly policies for them and look to suppress the vote with id required
Just like the republicans in the US
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Except in the US the Democrats typically raise more cash than Republicans from big business. Wall Street and Silicon Valley billionaires supported Biden not Trump. Zuckerberg alone spent $400 million making sure Trump didn't win (the money was not included in campaign contributions).

Trump ran out of money to fight his campaign and couldn't staff enough lawyers. In terms of personal contributions, Trump had far more small dollar donations than Biden. Having said that, even Trump raised $812 million!

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The US has a very complex election system, and politicians spent much of their days raising funding to cover their campaigns. If they want to sit on a committee they pay for the privilege as much as $75,000. This gives them significant power to lobby on behalf of their corporate sponsors. Makes the UK system seem like a model of morality.
 
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