Steve Gibson Deserves League One

It's a good job we've got Gibbo to make sure we'll be ok if we go down
This wouldn't have happened with Tony Pulis. Gibbo should have ignored all the whingers and stuck with him.
Warnock has been a big disappointment - team selection poor v Hull and today .Hope he comes up with a miracle for last few games.
 
Laughing said:
It's difficult to know Woodall, I am not in on meetings. However, either we have been very unlucky with appointments, or the structure at the football club is wrong and no manager could make a fist of it under the current leadership.

One example would be the scouting setup. I know that gems from the lower divisions are not easy to find before their quality is obvious, but we have stuck with the same scouting network for some time, and, let's be honest, have a squad of players worth, generally, less than we paid for them.

There seems to be a certain balance and complimentary factor missing from the squad also, if player A can do x and y but not z, you get player B who is great at z and pair them in defence, or midfield or wherever they play. It's joined up thinking when you put a squad together. We lack that.

My whole point is, manager after manager this board is full of criticism of each and every one of them, they had to go, they are not up to the job, no tactical nous - the list goes on. Is it really the managers are all crap?
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Don’t get me started on the scouting set up!!:mad:
 
hopesoboro said:
It's a good job we've got Gibbo to make sure we'll be ok if we go down
This wouldn't have happened with Tony Pulis. Gibbo should have ignored all the whingers and stuck with him.
Warnock has been a big disappointment - team selection poor v Hull and today .Hope he comes up with a miracle for last few games.
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I actually think you're right, although I understood why he got rid when he did purely because of fan pressure. Part of his job is to appease.

Pulis would have had us top 10, at absolute worst, I'm 100% convinced of that.
 
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Nobody wants to emulate Wigan. Nobody, not even Pog has said he wants Gibson to go.
He needs to appoint someone with expertise (a peter Kenyon type) to run the footballing side on his behalf. As for investment, nobody has complaints with Mr Gibson on that side, it is the decisions on who it is invested on that is the issue. As for people pointing out the economic downturn, there are some very clever rich people that can and will make an awful lot of money in such times too.
 
coluka said:
Nobody wants to emulate Wigan. Nobody, not even Pog has said he wants Gibson to go.
He needs to appoint someone with expertise (a peter Kenyon type) to run the footballing side on his behalf. As for investment, nobody has complaints with Mr Gibson on that side, it is the decisions on who it is invested on that is the issue. As for people pointing out the economic downturn, there are some very clever rich people that can and will make an awful lot of money in such times too.
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As I said above, he could easily get that choice “wrong”.
 
atypical_boro said:
I actually think you're right, although I understood why he got rid when he did purely because of fan pressure. Part of his job is to appease.

Pulis would have had us top 10, at absolute worst, I'm 100% convinced of that.
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Did we lose six straight with Pulis at a vital time last season?
 
Michael_Vronsky said:
In a myriad of incredible decisions made by Gibson
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Eh?

Mowbray, Karanka and Pullis. All did a job. Woodgate was an attempt to move the club in a different direction outside of the habitual failures who do the rounds with clubs like ours Warnock, Allardyce, etc. managers who had managed clubs more times than they really should and ultimately failed at every single one. The Woodgate thing failed but I think it was right to try it (maybe looking at Eddie Howe at Bmuff?) perhaps he allowed it to run too long but Gibson has always given his managers full backing and that includes time.
 
I understand that Gibson cares about the club and that he's propped us up financially over the years.

However, I believe that he's taking us down to the 3rd tier and rather than a quick return I think we're more likely to spend a decade in that division like Coventry.

The club is going nowhere with him making footballing decisions. I know without him the club might not exist but with him all we'll ever do from now on is exist, the days of competing (even at this level) are long gone.
 
pulis wouldn't have had us top ten, I'm 100% convinced of that. He may have kept us up, but I'm far from convinced.
This is a disgraceful squad made up of poor players that we have over paid for and overpay.
What makes it worse is that they clearly do not care and do not even play to their limited potential.

Recruitment should include consideration of the character of the players; ours are a disgrace.

Do not forget the role pulis had for 18 months shaping the squad. The signing of Saville, McNair and Flint are every bit as bad as monk's lunacy in signing Assombolonga, Fletcher, Shotton, Johnson and woodgate's idiocy in signing Dijksteel, Bola, Brown and that "goalkeeper".

This is a spectacularly bad squad and every bit as bad as anything I've seen since I first went in the very late 60's. Technically awful, but the most gutless bunch of mercenaries I've seen play for us.

I am really critical of Gibson since the summer of 2016, but he does not deserve League 1 and relegation.
He has made incredibly bad decisions and employed a disastrous string of people in key positions, but he has continued to finance an operation that should at the very least finish in the top ten in terms of budget.
The players, assorted coaching teams, the recruitment shambles and the executive team should hang their heads in shame at the pitiful way they have used the Middlesbrough FC budget and resources.

There needs to be a wholesale clear out and re-structure of this shambles of a Club. Players; Recruitment/Scouting; Exec team.
Nobody is going to buy this set up that has far less than zero value; and Gibson won't just walk away.
To use Mowbray's much used expression "It is what it is".
As fans there is literally nothing we can do.
At this point there isn't anything that Gibson can do.
I'd have thought professional pride would eventually kick in with the players, but I'm afraid I don't think it will.
 
atypical_boro said:
I actually think you're right, although I understood why he got rid when he did purely because of fan pressure. Part of his job is to appease.

Pulis would have had us top 10, at absolute worst, I'm 100% convinced of that.
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I'm not sure fan pressure will have been the main reason Pulis didnt carry on.

If he wanted to appease the fans he massively misread the feeling towards Woodgate. Or previously Agnew.

In fact when it comes to managerial appointments I don't think he gives a shirt what the fans think.
 
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