Steve Gibson Deserves League One

I think theres those that dislike Gibson and delve into the finanaces and those that where that where there and realise what were like from the 60s and some fans even prior to that.
We were pretty much a failure as a football club tbh, I once spent 4 hours in Wilf Mannions company and he thought we were the biggest underarchievers until Gibson took over and remember talking to Wilf at Wembley and he was so proud.

Always grateful for what Ive seen since the local lad took the club to unchartered territory, and I always will be. Sure hes made mistakes and things have been difficult and hes not beyond fair criticism, but a lot of the stalwarts, diehards, and ever present fans stay loyal to the lad.
I`ll be there as a ST holder next season whatever division we are in.
 
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indeedido said:
hopeless can't read complete sentences, much less form them.

Steve Gibson has actually not put anything into the club since 2016. That is a fact as I have previously covered and is clear in the Company's Accounts.
You have to be all in with Gibson for some people. Thankfully however most of us can think for ourselves and realise he did brilliantly from 1993 until 2006 and has had a nightmare ever since. The debt he guarantees is there because of what he has done.
I really really don't think he deserves League 1 for his club at all, given the budget he has approved. It should enable top ten in this league. He has appointed appallingly. Anyone who disagrees with that is simply in denial.
The Execs, Managers, Recruitment/Scouts, Players he has personally approved the appointment of, are the reason why the club is where it is.
He will be gutted when we go down. He will be right to feel sore at many people. But he has to accept it is his responsibility because he has all the power and makes all the decisions.
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You’re absolutely right it’s been tough since 2006 and he’s made a few bad managerial appointments. However, some of those really look bad because Gibson has been so diligent with the club’s finances for the most part. The one time he’s had a bit to spend, he appointed the manager the majority of our fans wanted (Monk). Its easy to say in hindsight it was a disaster, but few were saying so at the time. Admittedly no one wanted Woodgate but clearly he’s realised now that he wasn’t up to the job, hopefully not too late.

As I say, I’m honestly grateful that, even when staring down the barrel of a relegation to the third tier (which I don’t think will happen because of the Wigan situation), I’m pretty confident that the club is in good hands financially. It’s more important than “success” in today’s climate. Ask Wigan fans if they’d sacrifice their 2013 FA Cup to save them now?

We’ve been in the third tier before, we will be in it again one day. Hopefully not next season.
 
I don't think getting rid of Pulis was the wrong decision, although a lot of people are now saying so. Pulisball is not pretty, but as long as we were in the playoff places,. most people were prepared to put up with it. It was when we dropped out of contention towards the end of last season that Pulis was done for. Just about everybody wanted him to go.

Gibson was right to dismiss him, but unfortunately he then followed that up with most awful, wrongheaded, naive decision he could possibly have made. He did pretty much the same thing when he appointed Southgate (who was capable, but not remotely ready) and Agnew (a complete cop-out on Gibson's part), but the Woodgate decision was much, much worse. It wouldn't be the first time we've dropped down a division, but if we were to have any hope of coming back quickly then Gibson needs to stop making these terrible mistakes.
 
Unlike most on here I really wouldn't be that confident that financially we will be ok in division one i think we will be in the mire. We will be losing money hand over fist. The club is geared up for the premiership with stadia, training ground and staff its not really viable in the championship never mind league 1. We will lose nearly 7m in tv revenue alone from the drop. Running costs were next to nothing in 86 this time round they are unstainably high.
 
atypical_boro said:
You’re absolutely right it’s been tough since 2006 and he’s made a few bad managerial appointments. However, some of those really look bad because Gibson has been so diligent with the club’s finances for the most part. The one time he’s had a bit to spend, he appointed the manager the majority of our fans wanted (Monk). Its easy to say in hindsight it was a disaster, but few were saying so at the time. Admittedly no one wanted Woodgate but clearly he’s realised now that he wasn’t up to the job, hopefully not too late.

As I say, I’m honestly grateful that, even when staring down the barrel of a relegation to the third tier (which I don’t think will happen because of the Wigan situation), I’m pretty confident that the club is in good hands financially. It’s more important than “success” in today’s climate. Ask Wigan fans if they’d sacrifice their 2013 FA Cup to save them now?

We’ve been in the third tier before, we will be in it again one day. Hopefully not next season.
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“Its easy to say in hindsight it was a disaster, but few were saying so at the time.”

Many of us including me did.

£6m for Fletcher was obscene.
£3m for Ryan Shotton was terrible business.

We just bought a bunch of players to try and fit in one narrow system, and when that didn’t work we didn’t have the personnel to change it.

This months after spending £15m on Bamford, Gestede and Guedioura.
 
Muttley said:
I wonder if he still has the classic "You are now seeing why Mowbray is the wrong man for the job" from 2010?

To be fair, a mere three years later Mowbray was sacked...
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After he failed to get us in the play-offs and was steering us towards League One.

So I was right then. Thanks.
 
Pog said:
So I was right then. Thanks.
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If in your head that makes you some sort of all seeing sage then crack on. Enjoy. With almost no exceptions, Football Managerial careers end in failure or, more often, are punctuated by persistent failure.

Like most on here you will be right and you will be wrong. Don't try to make out you're any better at this than anyone else.
 
Pog said:
“Its easy to say in hindsight it was a disaster, but few were saying so at the time.”

Many of us including me did.

£6m for Fletcher was obscene.
£3m for Ryan Shotton was terrible business.

We just bought a bunch of players to try and fit in one narrow system, and when that didn’t work we didn’t have the personnel to change it.

This months after spending £15m on Bamford, Gestede and Guedioura.
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Well, as I say, *few* were saying so. That is to say it was a small minority.
 
Incredible how many people believe we should accept just existing, which is what we’re doing under Steve Gibson.

Over a decade of failure and mismanagement from a man who sits in his ivory tower not bothering to communicate with his customers in an era where it’s never been so easy to reach out to them.
 
Same_as_before said:
If he has put no £ in since 2016 who has been paying the wages?

For every Brentford there is a Wigan, for every Wolves there is a Sunderland.

The fat lady still has a few tunes to play.
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Gibson hasn't paid any wages, there was a profit made across 2016-2019 (the last 3 accounting years) and he injected no equity.
Even when the Club loses money he doesn't put money in; the rest of his Company acts as guarantor, loaning the club money to cover the P&L loss.The money is loaned, NOT given.
He only "puts money in" when he buys equity released in the club. He hasn't done that since 2016 and has only ever done that 3 times.
These guarantees - and the fact he agrees not to recall them within the next 12 months - is THE ONLY thing that allows Boro to continue, but they are guarantees only, he has put no money in. He is allowing the Club to get deeper into debt - a debt to him.
Provided the Balance sheet and future Trading outlook for Bulkhaul both look strong, he is under no pressure to stop these guarantees. Weakening of GO'N, or continued huge losses at MFC are the major risks.
FFP stops him being able to sustain major losses at MFC and he has shown no inclination whatsoever to pump in the money (£8m per season in equity) that FFP allows.
 
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