Steve Gibson calls for urgent help from the Government and Premier League for EFL clubs

Block21 said:
Well if this rubbish is the best you can come up with then yes, please don’t. You have something in for the Gibsons as proved your earlier derogatory threads about Ben for no reason.
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They were not derogatory threads - i said he hadn't played for two years... that was a FACT
 
This is the bloke who just gave Trump a thumbs up on another post. Not sure if he's constantly attention seeking or just a loon. Oops, I guess I'm going to be reported now.
 
Michael_Vronsky said:
This is the bloke who just gave Trump a thumbs up on another post. Not sure if he's constantly attention seeking or just a loon. Oops, I guess I'm going to be reported now.
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Again it's an OPINION - what don't you understand? Because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean they are wrong or incorrect
 
Juninho10 said:
They were not derogatory threads - i said he hadn't played for two years... that was a FACT
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Also claimed he was the billy big b***ks type and thought he was an England defender. Did you forget about that bit? You said he thought he was bigger than Boro
 
Block21 said:
Also claimed he was the billy big b***ks type and thought he was an England defender. Did you forget about that bit? You said he thought he was bigger than Boro
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I never once said he was "billy big b***ks" - he obviously did think he was better than Middlesbrough - otherwise why move? He moved thought he would get into the England squad.. then didn't play for 2 years

But again you are attempting to deflect the thread away from supporting multi-millionaire footballers with taxpayers money
 
Juninho10 said:
I never once said he was "billy big b***ks" - he obviously did think he was better than Middlesbrough - otherwise why move? He moved thought he would get into the England squad.. then didn't play for 2 years
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And what is wrong with thinking he can get in the England squad? I fail to see really what is wrong with him having ambition, it never worked out for him but I don’t see why that is a problem at all
 
[QUOTE="Juninho10, post: 210944, member: 516"
Your taxes can help the ultimate multi-millionaires (y)(y) - Mine will go to Nurses and the poor in society[/QUOTE]

You get to choose where your taxes go - great, I'll start writing to my local MP.
 
Juninho10 said:
I never once said he was "billy big b***ks" - he obviously did think he was better than Middlesbrough - otherwise why move? He moved thought he would get into the England squad.. then didn't play for 2 years

But again you are attempting to deflect the thread away from supporting multi-millionaire footballers with taxpayers money
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Yep, because all league 2 footballers are multi millionaires. Every single one of them.
 
Block21 said:
And what is wrong with thinking he can get in the England squad? I fail to see really what is wrong with him having ambition, it never worked out for him but I don’t see why that is a problem at all
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I never said having ambition was a problem - I was questioning why we were considering a player that HADN'T PLAYED FOR TWO YEARS.... we were essentially considering him because his last name was Gibson, if it was Jones, Burt or Smith... everyone would be saying he hasn't played for 2 years
 
To be fair you raise a valid point and one that I agree with. What a way to go about it though...

Any other business spunking 50mill on bad deals, probably an entire years revenue, then asking for handouts a couple of years later so they don’t have to lay off any more of their minimum wage staff would be laughed at.
Support for this bailout relies heavily on the view that football clubs are more than just businesses. That they play some kind of role within communities. But this isn’t true and hasn’t been for decades.
Most clubs are mismanaged and in my opinion should be allowed to fail as a result.
We could do with a few less anyway - bigger slice of the pie for those left standing.

I find it hard to believe “fans” still see themselves as something more than customers at this point
 
Juninho10 said:
I never said having ambition was a problem - I was questioning why we were considering a player that HADN'T PLAYED FOR TWO YEARS.... we were essentially considering him because his last name was Gibson, if it was Jones, Burt or Smith... everyone would be saying he hasn't played for 2 years
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Wrong. Go read your thread again without editing it.
 
ThirdLeg said:
To be fair you raise a valid point and one that I agree with. What a way to go about it though...

Any other business spunking 50mill on bad deals, probably an entire years revenue, then asking for handouts a couple of years later so they don’t have to lay off any more of their minimum wage staff would be laughed at.
Support for this bailout relies heavily on the view that football clubs are more than just businesses. That they play some kind of role within communities. But this isn’t true and hasn’t been for decades.
Most clubs are mismanaged and in my opinion should be allowed to fail as a result.
We could do with a few less anyway - bigger slice of the pie for those left standing.

I find it hard to believe “fans” still see themselves as something more than customers at this point
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Thank you - I do admit I am 'too the point' and probably don't explain it well enough - but you have posted a great post
 
Juninho10 said:
So Gibson and Championship chairmen shouldn't ask for taxpayer bailouts - thank you for agreeing with me....
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He can do what he wants. If he thinks it will help keep English football afloat then yes, yes he should. Now I am going to stop commenting on this now because you might report me for disagreeing with you. Keep on seeking the attention you crave.
 
Block21 said:
He can do what he wants. If he thinks it will help keep English football afloat then yes, yes he should.
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So you are supporting taxpayers and the Government bailing out multi-millionaire footballers, instead of helping nurses and vital services? That's nice Block21... well at least we all know where you stand now
 
Cardiffdaffs said:
No consolation to a footballer and his family of his employer goes to the wall because it is not allowed to seek Government support as with many other sectors. You are getting into dangerous territory when you start discriminating against a company because of the sector and perceived wealth of its owners/shareholders. Means testing I think you are advocating for government support. So for example we shouldn't give money to any music venue owned by a wealthy shareholder?
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They are allowed government support. They have the same furlough offer as other sectors.
 
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