Starmer calls for nationwide lockdown in next 24 hrs

Laughing said:
Anyone saying labour would be 20 points ahead knows nothing about politics, who are these commentators you are referring to?
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It was actually Blair that was first to come out with that. At a time when Corbyn was 8% ahead in the polls.
 
Scrote said:
Labour should be 20 points ahead

Labour should be 20 points ahead

Labour should be 20 points ahead

Not an extenisve list - just first page of Google. Proves it was definitely 'a thing' and that people who probably know something about politics were pushing it.

If you haven't heard it before then you haven't been paying attention.

If you're pretending you haven't heard it before then...
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What? These are comments by the Shropshire Times Tony Blair and I stopped reading at that point. They are rhetoric and refer to Corbyn. Not sure you have made a point.
 
Scrote said:
Labour should be 20 points ahead

Labour should be 20 points ahead

Labour should be 20 points ahead

Not an extenisve list - just first page of Google. Proves it was definitely 'a thing' and that people who probably know something about politics were pushing it.

If you haven't heard it before then you haven't been paying attention.

If you're pretending you haven't heard it before then...
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Nobody told me Labour should be 20% points ahead.
Certainly not since Keir Starmer became leader.

Shropshire Star article - September 2019
Times article - November 2017
PoliticsHome article - December 2017

Wow.
 
Labour could never be 20 points ahead in any poll, the country is sadly Conservative with a bigger than usual c, the msm is and always has been in bed with the tories, its mostly owned by multi millionaires who dodge taxes by moving overseas but manage to control the public into voting against their own interests to make the 1% richer.
Sadly they fall for it time and time again.
Get out of the EU before they clamp down on tax avoidance they cried, and the sheep did as they were told.
 
BoroFur said:
Nobody told me Labour should be 20% points ahead.
Certainly not since Keir Starmer became leader.
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People regularly said that Labour WOULD be 20 points ahead under any leader other than Corbyn.

And that was before the catastrophic response to Covid.

Those three articles show it wasn't just a single throwaway comment, but a long-term rhetoric device employed by MPs and Blair etc.
 
Scrote said:
Of course they refer to Corbyn. That's entirely the point. I can only assume you're trolling now. Have fun.
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Why would you assume that? I post an innocuous post about starmer doing something right.. Oh OK can't be bothered.
 
Laughing said:
Why would you assume that? I post an innocuous post about starmer doing something right.. Oh OK can't be bothered.
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Okay, apologies. I thought you were just dismissing the posts after they'd proved the point.

I appreciate there's half-a-dozen different things happening on the thread.
 
Scrote said:
People regularly said that Labour WOULD be 20 points ahead under any leader other than Corbyn.

And that was before the catastrophic response to Covid.

Those three articles show it wasn't just a single throwaway comment, but a long-term rhetoric device employed by MPs and Blair etc.
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Yes but due to Corbyn, Starmer started out 20 points BEHIND Johnson.

So are you saying that Starmer should have been able to pull off a 40 point swing in the space of 9 months?
 
I don’t think there is any particular reason to expect Labour to have clawed back the 20% deficit in the polls.

People starving, abject poverty outside the south east, an underfunded NHS and incompetent Tory government.

These were all in place before the last election and yet Johnson was put in to get Brexit done.

He has done Brexit and everything else is much the same, so why aren’t the Tories still 20% ahead in the polls?
 
BoroFur said:
Yes but due to Corbyn, Starmer started out 20 points BEHIND Johnson.

So are you saying that Starmer should have been able to pull off a 40 point swing in the space of 9 months?
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Labour were 20 points behind due to Corbyn unleashing wave after wave of anti-semitism on the nation.

As soon as Starmer rid the party of that despicable scourge (happened pretty quickly by all accounts) he was level pegging again.

So, yes, a 40 point swing should have been childs-play.

Unless you're going to tell us that the anti-Corbyn stuff was just made up to get rid of a reasonably sensible socio-democratic reform of the UK?
 
Scrote said:
Labour were 20 points behind due to Corbyn unleashing wave after wave of anti-semitism on the nation.

As soon as Starmer rid the party of that despicable scourge (happened pretty quickly by all accounts) he was level pegging again.

So, yes, a 40 point swing should have been childs-play.

Unless you're going to tell us that the anti-Corbyn stuff was just made up to get rid of a reasonably sensible socio-democratic reform of the UK?
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You must have missed ‘get Brexit done’ with both his arms waving in the air.

They lapped it up like lemmings.
 
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