Sir Lewis Hamilton

I told you before I am way to the left of you. Tax avoidance is wrong, even if it brings employment. You simply say what the 'like' club wants.

Tell me one yes one left wing policy that Corbyn managed to achieve.

Blair; highest tax take, low unemployment , new schools and hospitals, more doctors nurses and health staff, .....

Big faults; not stopping sale if council houses, opening up gambling, Iraq.

Corbyn s achievements ; er

The fact that Corbyn was never in a position to achieve much as Prime Minister might have something to do with that. One thing I can point out, though, unlike Tony Blair and the Tory party he voted against the Iraq war.
 
The fact that Corbyn was never in a position to achieve much as Prime Minister might have something to do with that. One thing I can point out, though, unlike Tony Blair and the Tory party he voted against the Iraq war.
Exactly, he could not win over Labour voters. He's like having a car with no keys.

What's the point?
 
No. You are conveniently avoiding the fact that he does pay a hefty tax bill in the UK so comparing him to any of these companies is just plain wrong.

As for being an 'out.and out left winger' why should I take that from a man who thinks Blair was to the left of Corbyn?
The companies I quoted pay billions in Vat, that makes it alright then .

Be e consistent you are either for or against tax avoidance, you can't be a little bit pregnant.
 
Missed what? Tax avoidance is an acceptable policy of the left?;
You really are struggling with the fact that he pays his tax aren't you? Why don't you just admit it and move on.
Exactly, he could not win over Labour voters. He's like having a car with no keys.
Losing the election does not mean that he is to the right of Blair. You may remember clause 4. Written in 1918 it formed Labour's written constitution which officially stated Labour's standing as a Socialist Party. Blair got rid of it.
 
Ah, a like from inconsistent The Grunt, it proves your argument is down the pan.

I fully accept he pays tax in the UK, as do Starbucks, but they both use a foreign domicile to mitigate it.

It seems you all prefer one rule for the rich and another for the rest of us.
 
You really are struggling with the fact that he pays his tax aren't you? Why don't you just admit it and move on.

Losing the election does not mean that he is to the right of Blair. You may remember clause 4. Written in 1918 it formed Labour's written constitution which officially stated Labour's standing as a Socialist Party. Blair got rid of it.
Are you saying nothing should change since 1918? Over a 100 years ago. Good to see you are keeping up with the times.
 
Ah, a like from inconsistent The Grunt, it proves your argument is down the pan.

I fully accept he pays tax in the UK, as do Starbucks, but they both use a foreign domicile to mitigate it.

It seems you all prefer one rule for the rich and another for the rest of us.

I said I was going to leave you to it, I wasn't intending to suggest you took leave of your senses. Just for clarity, can you identify where I've advocated the rich not paying taxes or having "one law for the rich and another for the rest of us"?
 
By acknowledging that we should formally recognise I bloke who moved to Monaco to mitigate his help to the UK NHS, police, defense ....

Tell me the difference between Hamilton and say Google on tax.
 
By acknowledging that we should formally recognise I bloke who moved to Monaco to mitigate his help to the UK NHS, police, defense ....

Tell me the difference between Hamilton and say Google on tax.

Er, that's bollox. I have posted no such thing. My first contribution to this thread was to follow up your off the subject dig at Corbyn. Nothing else other than to try and find out wtf you're on about.

Maybe it's time for a head clearing moment?
 
By acknowledging that we should formally recognise I bloke who moved to Monaco to mitigate his help to the UK NHS, police, defense ....

Tell me the difference between Hamilton and say Google on tax.
Surely, Google, Starbucks, Amazon etc make billions selling their wares in the UK and don't pay any tax. Hamilton earns his coin all around the world, doesn't live in the UK but still pays some tax here, that I'm 100% sure he could get around if he wanted to. I don't see how you are equating the two as the same level?
 
Are you saying nothing should change since 1918? Over a 100 years ago. Good to see you are keeping up with the times.
No I'm not saying that nothing should change with the times but clause 4 underpinned Labour's commitment to Socialism. Blair got rid of it and Corbyn wanted to reinstate it. You are probably the only person in the world who thinks that Blair is left of Corbyn. Quite frankly it's laughable to everyone except yourself. These achievements that you mention - low unemployment , new schools and hospitals, more doctors nurses and health staff - came after 18 years of Conservative government of Thatcher and Major. Improving on that was no real task.
Did he renationalise the railways like Corbyn would have done? No.
Did he renationalise the utility companies? Again no.
Did anyone ever call him a Marxist or a Communist? No.
Did he introduce tuition fees. Yes.
Did he take us into an illegal war that cost millions of lives and for which we are still feeling the effects to this day? Yup.

Do as Farting Gnome has suggested and take some time to clear your head.
 
Surely, Google, Starbucks, Amazon etc make billions selling their wares in the UK and don't pay any tax. Hamilton earns his coin all around the world, doesn't live in the UK but still pays some tax here, that I'm 100% sure he could get around if he wanted to. I don't see how you are equating the two as the same level?
Yes I am, the principle is the same. I have to truck with either of them Amazon employ 10,000's in the UK pay a fortune in NIC, rates, collect VAT. It does not excuse their avoidance of Corporation Tax.
 
No I'm not saying that nothing should change with the times but clause 4 underpinned Labour's commitment to Socialism. Blair got rid of it and Corbyn wanted to reinstate it. You are probably the only person in the world who thinks that Blair is left of Corbyn. Quite frankly it's laughable to everyone except yourself. These achievements that you mention - low unemployment , new schools and hospitals, more doctors nurses and health staff - came after 18 years of Conservative government of Thatcher and Major. Improving on that was no real task.
Did he renationalise the railways like Corbyn would have done? No.
Did he renationalise the utility companies? Again no.
Did anyone ever call him a Marxist or a Communist? No.
Did he introduce tuition fees. Yes.
Did he take us into an illegal war that cost millions of lives and for which we are still feeling the effects to this day? Yup.

Do as Farting Gnome has suggested and take some time to clear your head.
How much will it cost to renationalise the Utilities? It was not important , renewal was.
What are you going to reduce spend on ? Hospitals or schools
As for the railways that will happen no matter what.
Do you think he was wrong to go into Yugoslavia to support the Muslim minority? It's easy deciding sat behind a computer.
 
How much will it cost to renationalise the Utilities? It was not important , renewal was.
It's important if you are a socialist. It's what Blair would have wanted to do if he was left of Corbyn.
What are you going to reduce spend on ? Hospitals or schools
False dichotomy.
As for the railways that will happen no matter what.
Not if you don't have the will to do it. That's why it hasn't happened yet, because the government are happy to renew contracts and pour our money into private hands. Just like Blair.
Do you think he was wrong to go into Yugoslavia to support the Muslim minority? It's easy deciding sat behind a computer.
There you go again, bouncing your argument all over the place. What the hell has this got to do with what we are discussing?
 
By acknowledging that we should formally recognise I bloke who moved to Monaco to mitigate his help to the UK NHS, police, defense ....

Tell me the difference between Hamilton and say Google on tax.

So to be clear, anyone who moves abroad should never be considered for honours?

And since you ignored my previous comment, what about people in nations where the Queen is still sovereign, are they also not eligible for honours in your world?

What about those who have been honoured but then move out of the UK, should they be stripped of their award?

Could you also list others who you feel should not have received an honour?
 
The companies I quoted pay billions in Vat, that makes it alright then .

Be e consistent you are either for or against tax avoidance, you can't be a little bit pregnant.
You can realise the difference between a corporation and a human being who does loads of work for charity though. Something you don't seem to be bothered about.
 
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