Shoplifting

Sounds like some lads doing it because they can.

Stealing stuff from shops that costs £1-2 is a way of life in some areas, they have no alternative or have to do so to pay for bills and the people involved are often ignored because they don’t have the right background.
 
fmttmadmin said:
Am saying it was a bit of a surprise to read they were homeless - seemed a bit different to the tone of the rest of the post.
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It was just two semi-related points really. The second being an example of the main point. The main point is that there is nobody stopping anyone stealing and there are no consequences if you do so people are more openly doing it. The reason that people steal might be different but the response from staff/security/police is the same. I wasn't judging people although I still wouldn't condone stealing.

I do know they were homeless because I recognised the one that didn't do the stealing which then jogged my memory on the other. It was on the high street and I see them regularly.

Coincidentally, since I made that last post I was talking to one of my kid's friend's dad who works on customer service at Tesco and he just randomly brought up how bad stealing has been at their store this year.
 
Frankie Lee said:
You seriously can’t understand why a homeless person would steal?
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Of course we can.

Let’s be clear though - the shoplifting in supermarkets and small stores is driven by those who are just talking advantage (as others have said) of a system that allows them to steal and sell to others.
 
1finny said:
Of course we can.

Let’s be clear though - the shoplifting in supermarkets and small stores is driven by those who are just talking advantage (as others have said) of a system that allows them to steal and sell to others.
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Not entirely true. There has been an upsurge in people stealing nappies and baby formula directly linked to the level of poverty in the UK.
 
Laughing said:
Not entirely true. There has been an upsurge in people stealing nappies and baby formula directly linked to the level of poverty in the UK.
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99% true ( there are always outliers)
People are stealing nappies and baby milk to sell - they are expensive.
I run 100 shops and 58 post offices,
My network includes colleagues running around 4000 shops between us.

We are at one on this. Brazen shoplifters are the issue.
 
I was in the supermarket at Marton near Colin Chengs. Lad around 17 walked in and picked up a case of Carling. Put it on his shoulder and walked out. Member of staff called out and he just swore at her and kept going. Staff said they are told not to confront people doing this or follow them out of the shop.
 
1finny said:
99% true ( there are always outliers)
People are stealing nappies and baby milk to sell - they are expensive.
I run 100 shops and 58 post offices,
My network includes colleagues running around 4000 shops between us.

We are at one on this. Brazen shoplifters are the issue.
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I don't know how much poverty plays a part but I don't doubt it does. What I can say is that it is increasing massively as households are forced into abject poverty. There is report after report on the phenomona.

I am sure as a victim you feel aggrieved. Doesn't change the underlying fact that most crime is a result of poverty.
 
Laughing said:
I don't know how much poverty plays a part but I don't doubt it does. What I can say is that it is increasing massively as households are forced into abject poverty. There is report after report on the phenomona.

I am sure as a victim you feel aggrieved. Doesn't change the underlying fact that most crime is a result of poverty.
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I don‘t feel aggrieved at all, nor do I feel a victim.
The thing that saddens me is people thinking it’s ok because we are a business..
The colleagues who run our shops are shti scared at the moment. They are afraid of being stabbed, punched et al.

To say ‘poverty“ is the underlying cause gives those scumbags an excuse they do rot deserve.

There are millions in poverty who don’t resort to thieving.
 
1finny said:
I don‘t feel aggrieved at all, nor do I feel a victim.
The thing that saddens me is people thinking it’s ok because we are a business..
The colleagues who run our shops are shti scared at the moment. They are afraid of being stabbed, punched et al.

To say ‘poverty“ is the underlying cause gives those scumbags an excuse they do rot deserve.

There are millions in poverty who don’t resort to thieving.
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I sympathise, but can't agree with the underlying cause.

I don't doubt there are organised gangs who would steal, regardless. There are plenty of people pushed into this in an attempt to feed their families and keep the heating on.
 
I was in two minds , should I intervene ,instead I brought it to the attention of the staff.
Not realising there was a second guy ,I’m a bit relieved I didn’t intervene.
 
Laughing said:
Not entirely true. There has been an upsurge in people stealing nappies and baby formula directly linked to the level of poverty in the UK.
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The was an ex-copper on the radio this morning saying that anyone caught should be issued with a letter banning them from the store. The police only investigate shoplifting over £250, but he said once you were banned then you are trespassing and any theft was then burglary. Still need people to catch them, but I guess AI and facial recognition could provide a solution. He also blamed the majority of baby formula theft on it being used as a cutting agent for class A drugs.
 
r00fie1 said:
I always get my shoplifting done well before Christmas.
It's getting the 10 lb turkey out under my Boro shirt that's always the problem.......perhaps that's why they only have 4XL left in the Club Shop?
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Wear a Newcastle shirt. You'll look normal then
 
RedAsABeetroot said:
The was an ex-copper on the radio this morning saying that anyone caught should be issued with a letter banning them from the store. The police only investigate shoplifting over £250, but he said once you were banned then you are trespassing and any theft was then burglary. Still need people to catch them, but I guess AI and facial recognition could provide a solution. He also blamed the majority of baby formula theft on it being used as a cutting agent for class A drugs.
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Given the baby formula argument I would ignore the ex copper.

It's been well documented why baby formula is being stolen.
 
I was in B&M last week in Stockton. A security guard had caught a shoplifter stealing coffee. The guard held him until he gave up the coffee. There were 6 jars stuffed up jacket. The guard then escorted him out of the store. I saw the guard speak into his microphone. The shoplifter then went into Poundland where the staff knew by then who he was and had a good description of him.
I noticed at the time that the coffee in B&M was nearest to the door and so easily stolen. I then thought who wants 6 jars of coffee unless they are absolutely desperate. Whether they need the money for drugs, food, to keep a roof over their head. I'm just glad I'm not in their shoes.
 
Trug said:
I was in B&M last week in Stockton. A security guard had caught a shoplifter stealing coffee. The guard held him until he gave up the coffee. There were 6 jars stuffed up jacket. The guard then escorted him out of the store. I saw the guard speak into his microphone. The shoplifter then went into Poundland where the staff knew by then who he was and had a good description of him.
I noticed at the time that the coffee in B&M was nearest to the door and so easily stolen. I then thought who wants 6 jars of coffee unless they are absolutely desperate. Whether they need the money for drugs, food, to keep a roof over their head. I'm just glad I'm not in their shoes.
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Coffee is relatively expensive, so even at half-price, it's a good deal for the seller and the buyer.
 
My Mrs was in the high street a couple of weeks back and the manager from Iceland chased a bloke, snatched the bag off him and said "if you come in my shop again I'm going to break your effin jaw" for reference the manager in Iceland looks like Action Bronson(the rapper) before he lost weight 😂
 
r00fie1 said:
I always get my shoplifting done well before Christmas.
It's getting the 10 lb turkey out under my Boro shirt that's always the problem.......perhaps that's why they only have 4XL left in the Club Shop?
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That's the largest kids' size
 
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