Shamima Begum

[BlindBoyGrunt]

Bethnal Green Islamic State schoolgirl Shamima Begum appealing against a ruling that she cannot return to the UK to challenge the removal of her British citizenship. The case concludes tomorrow but the Court of Appeal will reserve its judgement to a later date.

 

[FatCat]

Can watch it live on YouTube apparently - I can’t see her being allowed back in - seems a fairly weak argument for her to do so.

 

[Norfolkred1]

I was surprised she was not back in the Country already, most of her mates are.

 

[Handsome]

Keep her where she is

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

I really think we missed a trick with Islamic state. We should have let them keep some godforsaken corner of Syria, and just let them do their own thing, F***ing goats, banning crosswords and whatnot. Let all the loons travel over. And when they get bored because they can't get ITV3 and want to come back we can tell them to **** off. Rather than just leaving Bangladesh to deal with it.

 

[10hickton]

Good enough for her - biggest single mistake she will ever make .

 

[Piccadilly Day Tripper]

There's a job going at LBC...

 

[BlindBoyGrunt]

Good enough for her - biggest single mistake she will ever make .

in my opinion she was obviously groomed at a very young age, so is also the victim of a crime committed on our soil. if you regard her as a terrorist then she is a British born terrorist, radicalised in this country and should therefore face justice in our courts.

 

[10hickton]

Shes getting her justice now. Let her rot, and that goes for all of the others too.

 

[Randy]

Shes getting her justice now. Let her rot, and that goes for all of the others too.

Spot on.

Sick of the "she was only 15 and easily led" excuse.

 

[BlindBoyGrunt]

Shes getting her justice now. Let her rot, and that goes for all of the others too.

Is she getting her justice?
She was a victim of crime before she herself was groomed into becoming a criminal, but has she had her day in court against her abusers?
Are the gang who groomed her still active in London?

 

[Randy]

Is she getting her justice?
She was a victim of crime before she herself was groomed into becoming a criminal, but has she had her day in court against her abusers?
Are the gang who groomed her still active in London?

Went abroad, shagged a load of radgy buggers who were committing heinous crimes against innocent people.

Not once has she shown any sort of remorse.

 

[BlindBoyGrunt]

Sick of the "she was only 15 and easily led" excuse.

That's one "excuse" I've never heard anyone use to be honest. Groomed? yes, radicalised? yes, but not easily led.

 

[Randy]

That's one "excuse" I've never heard anyone use to be honest. Groomed? yes, radicalised? yes, but not easily lead.

Fair. Groomed? Any proof of that or is that just the go to reason because she was 15?

Could she actually just be a psychopath? For example kids her age have committed horrible crimes against others. Those kids were usually nuts.

 

[BlindBoyGrunt]

Went abroad, shagged a load of radgy buggers who were committing heinous crimes against innocent people.

Not once has she shown any sort of remorse.

Randy, do you genuinely believe that this was the start of her story, that she just upped and went to Syria one morning?

 

[BlindBoyGrunt]

Fair. Groomed? Any proof of that or is that just the go to reason because she was 15?

Could she actually just be a psychopath? For example kids her age have committed horrible crimes against others. Those kids were usually nuts.

That implies doubt. Leaving aside the fact that psychopathy is a mental disorder, we will never have any proof if she is left to rot. If she comes home and passes through our justice system we may learn a lot more. More about her condition and more about grooming methods and gangs.

Remember, she can still be jailed in this country if found to be mentally stable and guilty.

 

[Handsome]

That implies doubt. Leaving aside the fact that psychopathy is a mental disorder, we will never have any proof if she is left to rot. If she comes home and passes through our justice system we may learn a lot more. More about her condition and more about grooming methods and gangs.

Remember, she can still be jailed in this country if found to be mentally stable and guilty.

A lot of the Islamic grooming goes on in prisons, just leave her to die where she is

 

[BlindBoyGrunt]

A lot of the Islamic grooming goes on in prisons, just leave her to die where she is

So what should we do with someone who comes over here, joins a grooming gang and is caught and found guilty?

 

[Handsome]

So what should we do with someone who comes over here, joins a grooming gang and is caught and found guilty?

What I would like to do isn't allowed anymore

 

[Randy]

Randy, do you genuinely believe that this was the start of her story, that she just upped and went to Syria one morning?

Of course not but why is it grooming? Why could she have not made the decision for herself?