Ryan Lowe on Emil Riis amid Boro interest

TheYorkshireTerrier

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Some interesting comments from Preston boss Ryan Lowe in his presser today about Emil Riis, I've copied the quotes in below:

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"I heard Blackburn's manager talking about their striker being worth £30million," Lowe told LancsLive. "It's great isn't it? It's good fun for all of you because you can say 'this is happening' and it's probably great, hearing rumours and what not. I am quite relaxed, me, either way I am quite relaxed on it. But, everyone has a price don't they? And if someone wants to offer you a price that you can't turn down, then you'll look at it. But, other than that, we're quite relaxed in everything we do."

When then asked if it's something he'll speak to Riis about, Lowe added: "No, no, he is alright, he's fine. He's in good spirits. Emil is not a very communicative person anyway - he is more of a smiler who does his talking with his feet. He's in a good spot, he's fine and there's no need to disrupt anything regarding it.

"The lads are fine with it. It's talk and until the minute he's not here, then he's here. Ultimately, that is probably happening up and down the country isn't it? Every club is getting linked with every player, so I am quite relaxed - very relaxed, actually. It's business as usual, he is training well and coming in with a smile on his face.

"He does his work, like everyone else, so until otherwise, and until something comes along - even then, it might not be the case. If a massive bid came in for Emil, and we said we couldn't turn it down, but it meant that I couldn't replace him, then he wouldn't go and it is as simple as that."

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What with the news of Muniz this morning and the tussle over Strand Larsen, I think it's very likely we will see Riis come in by the end of the window, it sounds to me like there's been plenty of discussion but perhaps no formal bid yet. I know some have speculated we could be using this as a bargaining chip for Larsen but I'm not convinced on that front.

 
Some interesting comments from Preston boss Ryan Lowe in his presser today about Emil Riis, I've copied the quotes in below:

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"I heard Blackburn's manager talking about their striker being worth £30million," Lowe told LancsLive. "It's great isn't it? It's good fun for all of you because you can say 'this is happening' and it's probably great, hearing rumours and what not. I am quite relaxed, me, either way I am quite relaxed on it. But, everyone has a price don't they? And if someone wants to offer you a price that you can't turn down, then you'll look at it. But, other than that, we're quite relaxed in everything we do."

When then asked if it's something he'll speak to Riis about, Lowe added: "No, no, he is alright, he's fine. He's in good spirits. Emil is not a very communicative person anyway - he is more of a smiler who does his talking with his feet. He's in a good spot, he's fine and there's no need to disrupt anything regarding it.

"The lads are fine with it. It's talk and until the minute he's not here, then he's here. Ultimately, that is probably happening up and down the country isn't it? Every club is getting linked with every player, so I am quite relaxed - very relaxed, actually. It's business as usual, he is training well and coming in with a smile on his face.

"He does his work, like everyone else, so until otherwise, and until something comes along - even then, it might not be the case. If a massive bid came in for Emil, and we said we couldn't turn it down, but it meant that I couldn't replace him, then he wouldn't go and it is as simple as that."

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What with the news of Muniz this morning and the tussle over Strand Larsen, I think it's very likely we will see Riis come in by the end of the window, it sounds to me like there's been plenty of discussion but perhaps no formal bid yet. I know some have speculated we could be using this as a bargaining chip for Larsen but I'm not convinced on that front.

So is he relaxed or isn’t he?
 
I'd love to bring Riis in, but even if we don't... CW wanted 5 strikers...

Muniz, Hoppe, Forss, Akpom and Watmore would be enough for me.
 
I'd love to bring Riis in, but even if we don't... CW wanted 5 strikers...

Muniz, Hoppe, Forss, Akpom and Watmore would be enough for me.
not for me, there's still not a proven 15+ goals striker in there. Muniz could do it, Akpom maybe could, but id prefer someone with a bit more of a track record
 
not for me, there's still not a proven 15+ goals striker in there. Muniz could do it, Akpom maybe could, but id prefer someone with a bit more of a track record
We don't need a 15+ goal striker if we can score those same 15+ goals between different players. We just need goals in general.

What's the difference between Riis coming in and scoring 20 goals... and having Muniz, Akpom, Forss and Watmore score 5 each?
 
We don't need a 15+ goal striker if we can score those same 15+ goals between different players. We just need goals in general.

What's the difference between Riis coming in and scoring 20 goals... and having Muniz, Akpom, Forss and Watmore score 5 each?
but there is a difference. it's about the players on the pitch at a given time being more likely to score. You want a 15 goal + striker AND the others to contribute. If your strikers only contributed 20 between them then you'd be needing to find 50+ goals from the rest of your team over the season
 
but there is a difference. it's about the players on the pitch at a given time being more likely to score. You want a 15 goal + striker AND the others to contribute. If your strikers only contributed 20 between them then you'd be needing to find 50+ goals from the rest of your team over the season

I agree, but the likelihood of scoring depends on the minutes they're playing. Emil Riis for example played 3101 minutes last season and scored 16 goals.... 1 goal every 193 minutes.

Muniz scored 5 goals in 488 minutes... 1 goal every 97 minutes. So when on the pitch, based on last season, Muniz is more likely to score than Riis.

The problem with a 15-20 goal a season striker is you're more reliant on that striker.

Mitrovic, the beast that he is, scored 40+ goals last season.... However, if he'd have got a bad injury. Fulham would have to have found those 40 goals throughout the rest of the team.
 
We don't need a 15+ goal striker if we can score those same 15+ goals between different players. We just need goals in general.

What's the difference between Riis coming in and scoring 20 goals... and having Muniz, Akpom, Forss and Watmore score 5 each?
The problem is you need 75+ goals for top two, so if 4/5 strikers have only scored 20, then where are the other 55 coming from?

There are plenty of permutations, but 20 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 5 for the strikers and 20 from the rest should do it.

With our supply this year one of our strikers needs to be looking at 20-25, if they're playing 40 games, and the other 4 probably 8-10 each on average.
 
I agree, but the likelihood of scoring depends on the minutes they're playing. Emil Riis for example played 3101 minutes last season and scored 16 goals.... 1 goal every 193 minutes.

Muniz scored 5 goals in 488 minutes... 1 goal every 97 minutes. So when on the pitch, based on last season, Muniz is more likely to score than Riis.

The problem with a 15-20 goal a season striker is you're more reliant on that striker.

Mitrovic, the beast that he is, scored 40+ goals last season.... However, if he'd have got a bad injury. Fulham would have to have found those 40 goals throughout the rest of the team.
Keep in mind Muniz played for Fulham, who scored 106 and battered the league, and Riss played for Preston who scored less than half those goals and finished 13th.

It's fair to assume at Fulham you would probably get nearly twice as many chances, and Fulham's xG compared to Preston last year backs that up.

If both playing for the same side, in a similar role and had the same chances, then I'd probably expect them to score similar goals.
 
I agree, but the likelihood of scoring depends on the minutes they're playing. Emil Riis for example played 3101 minutes last season and scored 16 goals.... 1 goal every 193 minutes.

Muniz scored 5 goals in 488 minutes... 1 goal every 97 minutes. So when on the pitch, based on last season, Muniz is more likely to score than Riis.

The problem with a 15-20 goal a season striker is you're more reliant on that striker.

Mitrovic, the beast that he is, scored 40+ goals last season.... However, if he'd have got a bad injury. Fulham would have to have found those 40 goals throughout the rest of the team.
They were top scorers by 32 goals. They could have replaced Mitrovic with our strikers and still been top scorers.

The rest of your post, I fully agree.

Our strikers that score 5 each are not consistent enough to do it regularly. That means chopping and changing the team every week, relying on subs etc. I would say goals per game (starts) is the most important stat because scoring as a substitute is a different situation. They can be goals when the game is already won.

A striker that starts, sets the tone, can get goals early and give you the lead etc is more valuable than just the goals they score. Making an impact from the bench is important but the foundation needs laying first and the starting strikers do that.
 
I agree, but the likelihood of scoring depends on the minutes they're playing. Emil Riis for example played 3101 minutes last season and scored 16 goals.... 1 goal every 193 minutes.

Muniz scored 5 goals in 488 minutes... 1 goal every 97 minutes. So when on the pitch, based on last season, Muniz is more likely to score than Riis.

The problem with a 15-20 goal a season striker is you're more reliant on that striker.

Mitrovic, the beast that he is, scored 40+ goals last season.... However, if he'd have got a bad injury. Fulham would have to have found those 40 goals throughout the rest of the team.
It doesn't mean you're more reliant on that player bur it does mean that when you get that one big chance they have a good chance of sticking it away. Hopefully Muniz and someone like Riis would do that.
You have to consider the teams they were playing for with the stats above. I'm not sure the minutes for Muniz are enough to get a picture of what to expect. I'm hoping for the best obviously
 
Keep in mind Muniz played for Fulham, who scored 106 and battered the league, and Riss played for Preston who scored less than half those goals and finished 13th.
It's fair to assume at Fulham you would probably get nearly twice as many chances, and Fulham's xG compared to Preston last year backs that up.
If both playing for the same side, in a similar role and had the same chances, then I'd probably expect them to score similar goals.
You can't really compare Fulham vs Preston on xG because you could argue Mitrovic is putting himself in the positions to score the goals.
Muniz's xG was 3.66 and he scored 5. Riis's xG was 13.5 and he scored 16. Obviously Riis played more and scored more, but xG is similar.

It doesn't mean you're more reliant on that player bur it does mean that when you get that one big chance they have a good chance of sticking it away. Hopefully Muniz and someone like Riis would do that.
You have to consider the teams they were playing for with the stats above. I'm not sure the minutes for Muniz are enough to get a picture of what to expect. I'm hoping for the best obviously
My overall point is having 3 strikers.... 1 scoring 20, and the other two 5 each.... is exactly the same as having 3 strikers scoring 10 each (these are random goal numbers, it's the concept that matters).
With the signings we've made (Hoppe, Forss, Muniz), and with Akpom and Watmore... I think CW will be aiming for a more even distribution of goals.
 
You can't really compare Fulham vs Preston on xG because you could argue Mitrovic is putting himself in the positions to score the goals.
Muniz's xG was 3.66 and he scored 5. Riis's xG was 13.5 and he scored 16. Obviously Riis played more and scored more, but xG is similar.


My overall point is having 3 strikers.... 1 scoring 20, and the other two 5 each.... is exactly the same as having 3 strikers scoring 10 each (these are random goal numbers, it's the concept that matters).
With the signings we've made (Hoppe, Forss, Muniz), and with Akpom and Watmore... I think CW will be aiming for a more even distribution of goals.
You're right but I think there's much more chance of a proven striker getting 15 or 20 than the others averaging 10
 
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