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I don't buy that Boromart in terms of you wanting people to accept their mistakes. Either brexit will reduce our economy to an extent that it bites enough to switch voters of brexit or it wont. No amount of telling people that the fishing industry has been destroyed, or that we can't send sausages to Ireland or that the EU demand we have an Irish sea border despite the EU no longer being able to make laws in the UK is going to change anyone's mind unless it effects them directly.I think you misunderstood me. Yes they had a free choice, but it was a tainted choice from the vote leave campaign for many reasons. That's before you even get into the efficacy of a referendum based on one known condition vs all potential alternatives as a binary choice. But as you said there should have been a confirmatory referendum to validate that afterwards.
It's the politicians that should be accountable, more so than the people. If people are manipulated through lies, it's the liars that need to be held to account.....however and here's what this thread is really about, until those people manipulated by lies are prepared to look at themselves honestly and admit it, then they are guilty of not holding politicians to account. You have done the right thing by saying that you were sold a lie about staying in the single market, you've done your bit, most leave voters don't seem to have been that honest.
Firstly a brexit vote is largely a tory vote and by and large they look after themselves so don't generally care if kids go hungry or nurses are on the bread line. Secondly, they need to see evidence in their day to day lives, not in the Guardian.
At the next election if enough voters are adversely affected by brexit ontop of tory cuts they will vote this bunch out, you would hope. No one on a message board is going to sway anyone. Jeeze most of us can't agree on keeping or selling Lewis Wing.
The internet is not about reasoned debate. It's largely about shouting loudest and "winning"