Colgates_shaving_foam
Well-known member
There's still 117 points to play for. Of course we have to play all the sides above us at least once.
Rather early to call time on our automatic promition hopes I think.
Plenty of positives
- Thread starter lostinyorkshire
- Start date
Rather early to call time on our automatic promition hopes I think.
HolgateCorner
Well-known member
‘Soft underbelly players’.
This is what needs sorting out.
We play some good football but it’s far too easy to score against us at key stages of a match.
CarrickBall
Well-known member
Look at the top of the table. Cream at the top already winning game after game. We’re miles off it. 3 go up.. who are we getting in front of?
Can’t defend. Don’t score enough. No winning mentality. Easy to play against. We’ve got no chance.
Zain
Active member
Keep hearing that our performance levels have dropped since wilder had "talks" with Burnley. Can anyone shed any light on the matter? Is it just a case of he didn't distance himself from the rumours quick enough for some people's liking? I thought it was a pretty part and parcel of the game for good managers to be linked with bottom of pl/ top of championship sides every time someone is sacked
pallyparker
Active member
agreed. strange feeling positive given where we are in table but i've seen enough to suggest we'll do well this season still. seen many 'top' sides start slowly before gathering momentum (see norwich, forest etc in past seasons). we'll be fine.
Isn't that football? Teams are supposed to score goals, goal keepers let them in.
If all keepers were always perfectly placed and saved everything football would be sh!te
If all keepers were always perfectly placed and saved everything football would be sh!te
I’m not sure on Roberts - shot for the first was in the corner but not much power behind it. Seemed to get down a bit slow, it wasn’t out of reach because it went under his armthe shocking defending before that was the main proble
Chutney
Well-known member
It would be if it was true. We've actually scored 10, which isn't bad given our position, but it'd look a lot better if we stopped conceding.
Andy_W
Well-known member
Good to see some positivity on here, it seems like a lot of people on here are spending 90 minutes looking at the league table, rather than looking at how we're actually playing.
This is the next 13 games, if we play how we have been then I don't see how we come out of this lot with less than 2 points a game (average). We will be going into every one of these games playing to win, and expecting to win.
So, my bet is 26 points, 28 scored, 12 conceded, maybe even a little better if we bring in another striker to partner Muniz, and some CM backup.
Does anyone else want to make a punt?
This is the next 13 games, if we play how we have been then I don't see how we come out of this lot with less than 2 points a game (average). We will be going into every one of these games playing to win, and expecting to win.
So, my bet is 26 points, 28 scored, 12 conceded, maybe even a little better if we bring in another striker to partner Muniz, and some CM backup.
Does anyone else want to make a punt?
If that is how we are performing in the easy games this season then it isn't good enough. 2 points per game is needed across the whole season, not just the easy games. 26 from the next 13 would give us 32 points after 20 games. 1.6 points per game average. Extrapolate that across the season and we finish on 74 which wasn't enough for last season's playoffs.
From what I've seen from us, finishing in the top half but outside the playoffs is exactly where I expect we will finish and I don't think anyone will see that as a successful season. We'll then lose our best players that go back to their parent clubs and we can scrabble around for some more "bargains" that can't get in our team anyway again. Wilder will jump to a team that bothers to recruit properly and we'll be back to square one looking for a safe pair of hands while we go through a transitional season.
Just realistic. I'd love to live in la la land with you where everything is perfect but I can't because it isn't reality. We've had this same situation about 10x in the past 15 seasons where we start terribly, a few dissenting voices get called bedwetters for pointing out what is blatantly obvious and then before Xmas everyone else catches up and realises that la la land never existed.
I like Wilder, I like the way he wants us to play. It is miles better than getting beat under Pulis/Woodgate etc when not even trying to win matches. The result is the same though. More championship football to look forwards to. I don't blame Wilder (he's made mistakes with decisions in games but that's football), we have failed to recruit the right players but most of all we've failed to recruit them at the right time. Even if we get the players in this week to give us the best team in the championship we still won't win the league because we've already wasted 15% of the season playing with a squad that would finish in the bottom half. That means we're already at the point where the best we can hope for is the playoffs and that is a lottery without any guarantees.
Jedi boro
Well-known member
Jedi boro
Well-known member
I hope you don’t have a gas oven
Corcaigh_the_Cat
Well-known member
There's too many that have ridiculous expectations of the club. Why do people think we should be automatic promotion contenders when we were so far away last season?
We've had a big turnaround in playing staff and I know that these days compared to yesteryear the players play to stricter coaching rules, but they still take time to get used to each other and we haven't got a settled side yet. If we get into the play offs it will be a job well done. Promotion an absolute bonus.
At least the football is more enjoyable to watch than much of the dross of the last decade.
We've had a big turnaround in playing staff and I know that these days compared to yesteryear the players play to stricter coaching rules, but they still take time to get used to each other and we haven't got a settled side yet. If we get into the play offs it will be a job well done. Promotion an absolute bonus.
At least the football is more enjoyable to watch than much of the dross of the last decade.
Andy_W
Well-known member
I think we'll get more to be honest, we could win 10 of those 13, don't see why we couldn't win every one of them individually, but no I'm not saying we will 10 or 13 etc. I would then expect us to carry over 2 PPG for the second half of the season, having good results at home against Burnley, Norwich and Watford (6 pointers so to speak).
I still think everywhere 2nd and below is in reach. Think we can kiss goodbye to 1st if Watford keep Pedro and Sarr, and remain strong elsewhere.
The word I would use to sum up this season is frustrating. I am encouraged by much of the performances which are not matched by the results.
Already there are quite a few posters who appear desperate to get the manager out.
Hopefully most Boro fans can see the folly of that strategy.
Already there are quite a few posters who appear desperate to get the manager out.
Hopefully most Boro fans can see the folly of that strategy.
allied_assault
Well-known member
That were beaten by QPR - not that good then!Only saving grace is we played a team that is expected to go straight back up. We matched them for most of the game, but again can't see a game off / fail to take advantage when we are on top.
Too many individual errors costing us, players switching off.
F*cking frustrating doesn't even start to describe things