Pfizer first dose efficacy
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brain_in_a_jar
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As I said above these figures do not account for the start up money the UK government gave to AZ by means of an advance upfront payment for the vaccines we had bought.
This is where the government have played it well in my opinion. In june they bought 100000000 doses of the vaccination from AZ, as part of this they provided a large advance payment of a few hundred million. This then enabled AZ to pay to set up the infostructure needed to produce and deliver the vaccinations required. In exchange for this upfront cash the UK government wanted production sites in the UK to be established, this in turn then meant that any vaccinations produced in the UK were prioritised for use by the UK government.
It is this deal and because of this upfront money our supplies weren't affected at the start of the year when AZ's european production site had problems with filtering which meant the yield they produced was significantly down, that impacted everybody but us as we only received vaccines which were produced in UK production sites.
The current high levels of supply that the UK has is very much down to government strategy, now the delivery of those vaccines I can accept is down to the NHS but if they don't have the supplies we don't have the vaccination programme we do now.
There are loads of good articles which highlight all of this, probably better than I have but its all there if you want to look. Even the guardian have wrote an extensive article on it and highlighting how the UK government have got it right.
Or you can just say the tories haven't got a single thing right and crack on. It undermines your argument somewhat, similarly to anybody who thinks they've done a good job and got nothing wrong. You can still think they're a sham while admitting they've got something right.
I've searched, and cannot find any reference to the UK government providing anything more than the £65.5 million that they themselves announced.It was more tad more than £65.5m
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That article says, "It is reported that ...." but does not provide any source for the claim.
Oxford University's own website also makes no mention of any UK funding beyond the £65.5 million.
Funding for UK vaccine programme
I suspect that this is a bit of lazy writing and the author has conflated the $1 billion provided by BARDA, with the £65.5 million funding given by the UK.
I could be wrong of course, so if anyone has a link that shows the UK government gave £1 billion plus to AstraZeneca and/or Oxford University, I'd be genuinely interested to see it.
Did some more looking and I still couldn't find any reports of a billion pounds being given to just Oxford-AstraZeneca alone.
The closest I could find was where, in an interview of Kate Bingham of the UK Vaccine Taskforce by Italian publication la Repubblica, on February 6 this year, she says that the UK government spent a total of £900 million in helping multiple companies (including Oxford/AstraZeneca, GSK/Sanofi, Valneva, Johnson & Johnson/Janssen, Pfizer/BioNTech, Novavax and CureVac) with mostly manufacturing and clinical trial costs:
Kate Bingham interview
HolgateCorner
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Putting the vaccine ‘argument’ to one side, my view is that the government are supposed to do most things right and get the odd thing wrong, not the other way round.
If you really keen this FOI has information about money supplied to the Jenner institute and funders. Scroll to the bottom and their is an excel breakdown
www.whatdotheyknow.com
These institutes pull money from funders all over the world on a yearly basis, which also includes our own government spending either directly/ indirectly.
Depending on how far back you want to go, the government could claim they have pumped billions into the development of research in healthcare which has either directly or indirectly supported the development of this vaccine and the vaccine technology.
Breakdown of funding for the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine - a Freedom of Information request to University of Oxford
Under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, please provide me with all of the following: 1. A breakdown of all funding (including all financial support, grants, donations, etc.) that has been received by the University of Oxford and the Jenner institute relating to ChAdOx vaccine platform, from...
These institutes pull money from funders all over the world on a yearly basis, which also includes our own government spending either directly/ indirectly.
Depending on how far back you want to go, the government could claim they have pumped billions into the development of research in healthcare which has either directly or indirectly supported the development of this vaccine and the vaccine technology.
brain_in_a_jar
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completely agree, hence me saying You can still think they're a sham while admitting they've got something right.
Corcaigh_the_Cat
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This government have claimed they 'pumped' £65.5m into the vaccine development.
Of course government funding of vaccine development has probably been going on for over a century.
Their purchasing of the finished product is rightly being applauded.
Of course government funding of vaccine development has probably been going on for over a century.
Their purchasing of the finished product is rightly being applauded.